The Urban Legend that is “Time Traveler” – John Titor


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By @ShaunyNews

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Although there is debate over the exact date it started, on November 02, 2000, a person calling themselves Timetravel_0, and later John Titor, started posting on a public forum that he was a time traveler from the year 2036. The website is below I am explaining a short passage, the website shows him debate scientists and more clever people and out debate them. Hoax or Real this is now an urban legend – All the chat and pictures in the ;inks below

John Titor story is one I have been aware about since early 2000, this man came onto a forum for Scientists, Physicists and pretty much the smartest people on EARTH and blew them all away with answers the clever people never even understood. There is a movie being made it is in post production stage and if you have heard of John Titor and you like Time Travel, well sit back and have fun because I have been for the last 14 years or so

The legend never died, he said he was from the future after WWIII to gain a computer part. Now, the easy thing to say is “Shaun go to bed” but if you have the time, read up and I 100% guarantee you will be amazed and you will NEED to know more. I know the WHOLE story, what he predicted that came true and now it is time for YOU to read also. Most won’t we all blog for ourselves to be fair, but this is a story so remarkable, once you start, it’s like a book. EVERYTHING is documented in the site below, have fun

 

http://www.johntitor.com/

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/time_travel/johntitor04.htm

Although there is debate over the exact date it started, on November 02, 2000, a person calling themselves Timetravel_0, and later John Titor, started posting on a public forum that he was a time traveler from the year 2036. One of the first things he did was post pictures of his time machine and its operations manual. As the weeks went by, more and more people began questioning him about why he was here, the physics of time travel and his thoughts about our time. He also posted on other forums including the now non-existent Art Bell site. In his posts John Titor entertained, angered, frightened and even belittled those who engaged him in conversation. On March 21, 2001, John Titor told us he would be leaving our and returning to 2036. After that, he was never heard from again. Speculation and investigation about who John Titor was and why he was online continues to this day. Although it may be easy to dismiss all this as science fiction, most people who read his posts agree that there is something very haunting about John Titor and what he said. In addition, and open to more debate, he also made a series of predictions and comments that eerily seem to be coming true.

An image inside his 'Time Machine' if it's to be believed

An image inside his ‘Time Machine’ if it’s to be believed

Unfortunately, I never spoke directly to John Titor but there are many out there who have and continue to wonder about their experience. As you get deeper and deeper into the story, you will find his posts, links to other sites about him, downloads and speculative information attributed to him after he left. I have taken the posts and organized them by date and subject. My editorial work is copyrighted but the unedited posts and the people who experienced it are in the public domain can be found on other sites listed inside. As you read, please try to keep two things in mind: 1. John appeared to answer nearly every question that was asked of him over the 4-month period he was online. Because of that, many people neglected to read the previous posts and asked similar or exact questions he had already answered.

Another image inside his car

Another image inside his car

It may offer a glimpse of what a time traveler goes through when having the same conversation again and again. 2. These posts were written before 911, the Discovery accident and the second gulf war. Many people believe John may have known of these events and dropped clues without actually referring to them. It’s also widely agreed that he made several predictions about future physics discoveries that have materialized as he stated. I have included a guest book where you may leave your comments. I will endeavor to respond to any questions you have based on my work. I hope you enjoy your journey with John Titor.

One of the first things he did was post pictures of his time machine and its operations manual. As the weeks went by, more and more people began questioning him about why he was here, the physics of time travel and his thoughts about our time. He also posted on other forums including the now non-existent Art Bell site. In his posts John Titor entertained, angered, frightened and even belittled those who engaged him in conversation.

On March 21, 2001, John Titor told us he would be leaving our and returning to 2036. After that, he was never heard from again. Speculation and investigation about who John Titor was and why he was online continues to this day.

Although it may be easy to dismiss all this as science fiction, most people who read his posts agree that there is something very haunting about John Titor and what he said. In addition, and open to more debate, he also made a series of predictions and comments that eerily seem to be coming true.

Unfortunately, I never spoke directly to John Titor but there are many out there who have and continue to wonder about their experience. As you get deeper and deeper into the story, you will find his posts, links to other sites about him, downloads and speculative information attributed to him after he left. I have taken the posts and organized them by date and subject. My editorial work is copyrighted but the unedited posts and the people who experienced it are in the public domain can be found on other sites listed inside.

After WW3 on his timeline, he came back for this

After WW3 on his timeline, he came back for this

As you read, please try to keep two things in mind:

1. John appeared to answer nearly every question that was asked of him over the 4-month period he was online. Because of that, many people neglected to read the previous posts and asked similar or exact questions he had already answered. It may offer a glimpse of what a time traveler goes through when having the same conversation again and again.

2. These posts were written before 911, the Discovery accident and the second gulf war. Many people believe John may have known of these events and dropped clues without actually referring to them. It’s also widely agreed that he made several predictions about future physics discoveries that have materialized as he stated.

I have included a guest book where you may leave your comments. I will endeavor to respond to any questions you have based on my work.

I hope you enjoy your journey with John Titor.

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(The Alleged) Hollie Greig Cover up – Westminster Peadophile Den/Expenses Scandal


get-attachment-3DISCLAIMER – Before I share images and type words and share what I know, I must first say all this is hearsay, speculation and untrue as things stand today. 

These views are not mine and I have no intention of claiming they are my views – I am here to share what I have researched with anyone wishing to research themselves

The links below are two articles I did on what ‘seems’ to have been and may well still be a peadophile ring involving members of the British Political establishment, TV Stars and perhaps others in famous circles. I am not claiming for one second any of this is true but what I am doing is asking what the thoughts of my readers are on this story. I would appreciate you leave a comment on the blog so we can keep all the replies and PERHAPS  things others want to share. The Disclaimer applies ONLY TO ME. Should you want to add something to this article, please do so at your own risk. I am speculating on what ‘seems’ to be a mountain of evidence. The Catholic Church are involved also and if you dig long and hard enough you will see more, SO I HAVE BEEN READING. I can’t prove any of this, I can only share my research from my chair where I as a disabled person sit and have time to research for days/weeks on any given story. Also I am a severally disabled person. I take strong medication and I use voice recognition for much of what I do. I repeat, none of this has been proven to be true, I am suggesting only that they may be. As a citizen of Britain, a democratic society I have the right to ask questions, the same questions people asked for ME TO GET THIS INFORMATION. This is 2nd hand information I could readily find on the internet with a proper search

Should you ever need to check if there is anyone on the Sex Offenders List in your area or any area in the UK, you can legally do so here: http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/contact-usreport-an-offender-2/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/07/13/tory-child-abuse-whistleblower-i-supplied-underage-rent-boys-for-margaret-thatchers-cabinet-ministers-as-media-go-to-for-tories-and-westminster-hard/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/07/13/thatcher-covered-up-conservative-sex-scandal-wow-media-are-going-with-it/

Alleged, but PLEASE. Google and you will find other media outlets ran the story, not just the People

Alleged, but PLEASE. Google and you will find other media outlets ran the story, not just the People

The Bard Communications office website is very strange and I have 5 PDF Files from their office dated 21st September 1961 http://www.bard.com.sg/

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List of religious leaders convicted of crimes

L Ron Hubbard makes an appearance here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_leaders_convicted_of_crimes

This is his section in the document: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard

Make of this what you will. I had to share this. I had the PDF for years and. well, better minds than I may see something else 

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The Hollie Greig Cover up

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From what I have read and it is very hard to read anything on Hollie Greig that anyone can say “Truth” So again, hearsay. Robert Green I can see tried to expose the story and wasn’t allowed to.  I can share this below. From what I can find, this is the only video of Robert Green speaking about Hollie and her supposed ‘Abuse’

Robert Green: Hollie Demands Justice campaigner jailed today in Scotland.

Posted on 17. Feb, 2012

Press Release from the Hollie Demands Justice Website

The Hollie Demands Justice campaign very much regrets the decision today of the Sheriff Court in Stonehaven to deprive Robert Green of his Liberty.

Despite breaches of Mr. Green’s human rights and repeated irregularities in law and process by the police, the legal profession and the court system since Robert Green was first arrested in February 2010, the Sheriff Court in Stonehaven, Sheriff Principle Edward Bowen saw fit to curtail his freedom, sentencing him to 1 year in jail (9 months for Breach of the Peace, 3 months for Breach of Bail conditions).

Robert has been a most robust and valued campaigner on behalf of Hollie Greig and her mother Anne, in seeking justice for the wrongs inflicted upon Hollie, exposing the lack of a duty of care from those in positions of trust, the perjury of Grampian Police and highlighting the nefarious nature of the legal system and the Establishment in both Scotland and England.

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Anne Greig said today:

Hollie and I would like to publicly thank Robert Green for his bravery, his tireless work and his dedication to Hollie’s cause, her search for justice. We consider ourselves most fortunate to have found such a man of principle to act and campaign on our behalf, whose selfless actions have taken him into conflict with those who would abuse their power and powerful connections to evade justice. Our disappointment with the legal system in Scotland now knows no bounds.

In our opinion Robert Green should be awarded a medal, not a criminal conviction.

It is our hope that Robert’s legal team will mount a speedy and energetic appeal on his behalf to release him from this enforced loss of his liberty that he most certainly does not deserve and we now state publicly that we will have fears for his well-being whilst in p1ison. We will hold responsible and accountable those who have seen fit to incarcerate him should any interference with his being or any harm befall him.

I would like to thank all the wonderful people who have supported Hollie, Robert and myself during this long and ongoing campaign, especially those who have repeatedly made the long trip to Scotland regularly giving support to Robert during his many hearings.

Both Hollie and myself extend our heartfelt wishes, our thoughts and our prayers are with Robert today.

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Far from seeing the jailing of Robert as a setback, the Hollie Demands Justice campaign will be stepping up the pressure as Anne Greig will now vigorously move forward with her High Court appeal and is currently discussing the timing of mounting a series of private prosecutions against those who have abused their positions of trust, many of whom have now perjured themselves in the courts and on the public record.

This campaign will not be silenced, it will move forward relentlessly until every possible avenue is exhausted, no matter how long that takes. No stone will be left unturned until Justice is not just done, but that justice is seen to be done.

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I can only share to create debate. I have researched as much as I can on many things, this one many are not aware about, some are. This is the official story, should we believe it below

 Summary:

1. Hollie Greig made serious allegations of child sex abuse to Aberdeen Police in 2000 and named 22 alleged abusers and 7 alleged victims (in addition to herself). The alleged abusers include social workers, a judge, a senior police forensics officer (since deceased) and two Head Teachers.

 2. Until now the Aberdeen Police have refused to interview more than at most 2 of the 22 named suspects and none of the 7 victims named by Hollie.

3. This refusal to properly and thoroughly investigate Hollie Greig’s allegations is despite the fact that 2 medical doctors and 2 clinical psychologists have examined her and their findings have supported her allegations that she was sexually abused.

Furthermore, the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority examined Hollie’s allegations, accepted that she had been abused and awarded her £13,500 in compensation for this.

4. All that Robert Green has been campaigning for is for the Aberdeen Police to properly and thoroughly investigate Hollie Greig’s allegations – that is their job and their duty, especially given the sheer gravity of Hollie’s allegations.

Sad sign of our times that if Hollie had alleged to police that these people had engaged in “Homophobic” activity the police would have thoroughly investigated it like a shot but to them alleged child sex abuse is perceived as not important.

5. For his campaigning Robert Green has been arrested by the Aberdeen Police at least 3 times so far. Arrested and investigated by the very same police force he’s trying to get to properly and thoroughly investigate Hollie Greig’s allegations of child sex abuse.

6. Robert Green is definitely innocent but even if you thought he somehow deserved to be arrested that does not alter the fact that he has a human right to have the defence Barristers he needs to defend himself and to have the Legal Aid he urgently needs to hire them.

On 9 September 2003 the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal found him “guilty of conduct unbefitting a solicitor On 15 October 2009 he voluntarily removed himself from the Roll.

And what qualifications and authority does Bennett have as an officially discredited ex-solicitor who had to leave his profession after disciplinary proceedings, to then appoint himself police, judge and jury in the Hollie Greig case and acquit all the alleged abusers named by Hollie even though they have never ever been properly investigated by the police?

All Robert Green is urging is for the police to do their job which is to properly and thoroughly investigate allegations of criminal activity, especially of serious criminal activity such as Holiie Greig’s allegations of child sex abuse.

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The story of a Peadophile ring, expense scandal’s in Political circles are rife and have been doing the round for years. All I am doing here is sharing a story ‘Supposedly’ reported by others and covered up by others (If you believe this to be true) As I said at the outset there is no proof here. All I have given you all is a chance to research should you want to see if there is any truth. I have no intention of taking this story any further. As a Scottish person who voted YES to leave what I see is a CRIMINAL WESTMINSTER, Proved by the lies from Westminster the BBC and many more. When we question the trust of one party and we see inadequate information I believe we can call into question the validity of other stories. All I am doing here is questioning stories you may or may not be aware about. I will leave some information below in Images as well as print

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Study Suggests Conspiracy Theorists Are More Positive & ‘Sane’ Compared To Conventional Thinkers


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By @ShaunyGibson – Used to be @ ShaunyNews

I have never claimed to be a conspiracist, more a finder of the truth. I believe man landed on the moon, well I kinda used to till this happened https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/12/02/did-nasa-just-admit-they-never-put-man-on-the-moon-video/ This suggests heavily it is just impossible for our species to get past the Vann Allan Belts between our World and the Moon. I don’t believe Aliens visit Earth. I am very careful what I believe in, I am always cautious with people claiming to be ‘New Friends’ as I know the rules of the game when exposing lies, crime and more via our Governments and friends of them. Many believe too much to easily, whenever there is bad weather people scream ‘H.A.A.R.P’ so I am very careful what I read and what and who I believe. This study done by collective-evolution.com says basically what I have said and thought for years that an open mind will find the truth before a closed mind. Minds are closed in people through and for many reasons, all I know is ‘I must know the truth’ this is why I have the word ‘Conspiracy’ as soon as it’s said people look away and think ‘Nutters’ The people who turn away are the closed minded people, the ones who don’t want their own reality questioned or are just not interested. Anyway I found this study a good read, I hope this explains the conspiracist better for people who name people that word

Enjoy….

A case study examining online commenting trends was performed by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent that revealed so called “conspiracy theorists” are actually more mentally sane (reasonable & sensible) than those who are considered conventionalists.

Not that long ago, practically anyone who thought outside of the box, questioned the official stories, or did any type of investigation into certain subjects was labeled a “conspiracy theorist.” In fact, many of these people, including the majority of the writers here at Collective Evolution, are still considered conspiracy theorists by many even though the goal is simply to examine or verify the truth of something.

It is interesting how many of the people who are labeled as conspiracy theorists spend a lot of time with research and critical thinking. Sure there are always going to be more extreme people who lend a “bad name” to those who are legitimately assessing evidence, but it doesn’t mean the entire idea of conspiracy is invalid.

Many will check the facts, and look into the evidence on both sides of the coin. Generally the people who believe the mainstream idea of what is true, or is accepted as truth do not bother to look at the other side of the coin. They believe what they are told without question, and anyone who disagrees is, well, crazy, or a conspiracy theorist. Or in other words, paranoid.

The fascinating part is, it’s become some common place amongst society for people to not want to be labeled as a conspiracy theorist that anytime political leaders or the media wish to make something unquestionable, they will literally use the words “conspiracy theorists” in their speeches or reports when referring to anyone who wishes to question the story.

The Study

A study was published in July of 2013 by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent in the United Kingdom, it was entitled “’What About Building 7?’ A Social Psychological Study Of Online Discussion Of 9/11 Conspiracy Theories.” The study compared “conspiracist,” (pro-conspiracy theory) and “conventionalist,” (anti-conspiracy theory) comments on various news websites.

The researchers were surprised that they found more “conspiracist” type comments than conventional ones. According to the researchers, “Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist.”

Among those who take the time to comment on news articles, those who discount official government accounts (the event’s on 9/11, or the assassination John F. Kennedy for example) aka “Conspiracy Theories,” outnumber those who believe in the official reports, two-to-one. Therefore, this means that the “pro-conspiracy” commenters are those who are now expressing what would now be considered conventional wisdom, while the “anti-conspiracy” commenters actually represent a small minority that is often shunned and discredited.

How The Times Have Changed

‘The research showed that people who favored the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile when trying to persuade their rivals,” said the study.

It seems as though what were once considered mainstream viewpoints are no longer considered as such by the majority, the anti-conspiracy commenters often showed anger and disgust in their posts. Perhaps they are becoming frustrated that their ideals are no longer accepted as truth. Perhaps, underneath the angry façade, this scares them.

Limitations of The Study

To be balanced it’s important to recognize the limitations of this study. It’s a sample obtained from one website and although it shows a trend there is definitely more to the story. Regardless it is an interesting observation and one that likely carries truth. It certainly suggests that we should be more understanding of each others points of view and talk about things in a civilized manner.

Further Comments

“As someone who has been around “conspiracy culture” for over 6 years now and running a website (Collective Evolution), it becomes increasingly clear as time passes that there are multiple groups that exist within conventional thinkers and more open-minded thinkers. Conspiracy theorists has become more of a derogatory term used these days to pretty much suggest that someone is unintelligent or unstable in thought. There are extremists on all sides. Those who are intense and angry and those who are more calm and collected. But from an anecdotal perspective, I would definitely say those who fear thinking outside the mainstream are a lot angrier and aggressive in their approach. We get to see it everyday here. For them, it’s not even about evidence it’s simply the idea that what they believe can be wrong. It seems a common denominator is a general lack of wanting to believe their authoritative figures might be lying to them or not having their best interest at heart. All in all, truth is becoming more prominent today and by default “conspiracy theorists” will naturally become the majority as they simply are open to and see the truth. This doesn’t mean all claims they make are correct, many are far-reaching, but many are bang on the mark.” Joe Martino – Co-Founder of Collective Evolution

Via: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/12/08/study-suggests-conspiracy-theorists-are-the-most-sane-of-all/

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1046003/pg1

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2714551/pg1

http://whatreallyhappened.com/es/content/study-suggests-conspiracy-theorists-are-more-positive-%E2%80%98sane%E2%80%99-compared-conventional-thinkers

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Fake News!! CNN & BBC Busted!! ISIS Is A Fake Threat!! 2014 (AS I HAVE SAID)


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WAKE UP, WAKE UP, WAKE UP!

By Shaun Gibson : @ShaunyNews

I have said MANY times now Al Qaeda and ISIS are fake and are run by the USA and the UK. Well thanks to social media like me, WE HAVE BUSTED IT ALL WIDE OPEN! If you watch this video and still think the BBC and Fox News are still telling  the truth, if you watch this video and believe ISIS and Al Qaeda are REAL you are a fool. I BEG YOU WAKE UP AND WATCH THIS VIDEO. I can only share what I am sent, I can only open the door, you are the one who must open your mind to the truth and walk through the door. Russia, China and many European countries are WELL AWARE the USA and UK are telling lies. This is a game changer, we have the proof. Now what? This happened in the Boston Bombing, this happens ALL THE TIME so gullible people watching Fox News and the BBC will believe and allow and support War against who?I will tell you why, FOR OIL! And War makes money. Links and videos below. TIME TO WAKE UP GUYS. Please at least watch the video. It is real and it has been confirmed several times the sources are real. I will have more later, for now, BUSTED USA, BUSTED UK! There is an agenda by certain global Elite that want war, they are trying to destabalise the Middle East to get a foothold in there. China are aware of this and are buying HUGE amounts of land in Africa, check: January 13th, 2013! I knew then and I know more now. We as a species best wake up before they Elitists actually get to their goal. That goal is complete control, the fact I can write this and others (I AM NOT A LONE VOICE) can tell the same story. Go Google or search on You Tube, you will see, I am one of Thousands of people. http://shaunynews.com/2013/01/15/china-building-ghost-cities-in-africa-why/

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Video thanks to MoxNews.com and FisherOfPeople

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I have asked SEVERAL times now, why did the US Military say this below. Who are they talking to? Who (PLEASE ASK) Who are they asking to wake up? Who? why? COME ON, THINK PEOPLE!

WHO IS BEING ASKED TO WAKE UP?

WHO IS BEING ASKED TO WAKE UP?

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WAIT. DIDN’T AL QAEDA DO 9/11? CAUSING ALL THESE WARS? AGAIN!! WHO IS BEING ASKED TO WAKE UP?

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THE SAME AL QAEDA WHO KILLED PEOPLE ON 9/11 - THIS MAKES NO SENSE

THE SAME AL QAEDA WHO KILLED PEOPLE ON 9/11 – THIS MAKES NO SENSE

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http://shaunynews.com/2014/10/06/my-message-to-a-sleeping-world/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/05/03/fbi-releases-heavily-blacked-out-sandy-hook-records-conspiracy/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/10/24/18-months-i-warned-you-about-isis-time-and-time-again-fell-on-deaf-ears-now-look/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/10/06/my-message-to-a-sleeping-world/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/07/30/wikileaks-publishes-unprecedented-secret-australian-court-suppression-order/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/07/11/breaking-egypt-charges-obama-and-hillary-with-conspiring-with-terrorist-muslim-brotherhood/

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Shocking proof that crisis actors, green screens, CGI, and paid propagandist are being used to fake worldwide events in order to scare people into giving up liberties, go to war, and create a one world government!! Rotten to the core. Lying, warmongering, propagandising filth. IF YOU DENY THIS, YOU ARE A SHEEP, YOU ARE BRIAN DEAD, BREAIN WASHED. PLEASE WAKE UP!

THIS IS A FAKE PICTURE – IT WAS PHOTOSHOPPED BY THE US GOVERNMENT

THIS IS A FAKE PICTURE – IT WAS PHOTOSHOPPED BY THE US GOVERNMENT

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Small Example

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This woman is saying “Tower 7 has fell” Look behind her left shoulder. Link below is a man BEATING THE BBC IN THE LONDON HIGH COURT FOR LYING ON 9/11 TO THE UK PUBLIC!

http://topinfopost.com/2013/04/28/uk-man-wins-court-case-against-bbc-for-911-cover-up

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DO NOT ASK WHERE I GOT THIS IMAGE

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He was the UK’s Foreign Secretary at the time. He called it, the truth. He was murdered weeks later. I went to School with his son. I know the family. Robin Cook (Go check) is from Edinburgh. This peaked my attention in the year 2000

“Second Species” On Earth Controls Money & Religion


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By Shaun Gibson : @ShaunyNews

The video and title are VERY hard to take in, but ask the question! Why are there so many ‘Whistleblowers’? People risking their lives to tell the truth. Now can we link this to all the banking Deaths earlier this year? I don’t know, all I do know is there is a cartel of criminals at the very tip of the World Bank. Money for the poor NEVER reaches the poor. Your call on what you believe http://shaunynews.com/?s=Suicides+bank&submit=Search I don’t believe the ‘Alien’ title here but I do get that there is still a group of people holding the financial cards for the entire world. If we don’t all know this by now then I recommend opening Google and checking the Banking Suicide’s all over the World the last year as a starting point to a much broader and bigger story, the link I provided above are all the banking deaths. One where a male Banker killed himself with a nail gun, shooting himself in the arms and legs as well, doesn’t make sense but this was the official story. If we think outside the box we see the bigger picture, or we don’t care and live in the dark. We have this choice

Former World Bank Senior Council, Karen Hudes has been making a lot of noise lately, and she recently said something she’s never said before. She said that a second species on Earth controls money and religion. Many people who have held positions to know things that the rest of us might not know have made some very shocking statements lately. For example, Paul Hellyer, former Canadian Minister of National Defence recently said that there are at least “4 known alien species that have been visiting Earth for thousands of years.” You can read more about that here.

I am aware that just because somebody says something does not mean that it’s true, no matter what their background. At the same time, what she says corroborates with a lot of ancient historical facts, and modern day disclosures of other strange phenomenon, like UFOs, secret societies and more. For someone like this to gain credibility as a World Bank whistle-blower and then all of a sudden make a comment like this is quite shocking. Although, in her interview she did discredit the idea of extraterrestrials on the planet, which I definitely disagree with. There is an enormous amount of evidence out there to suggest we are not alone, and we have indeed been visited. For more information on that click here.

“These countries are not monolithic, there are forces fighting the corruption and there are forces that have totally been co-opted, and the way they act is treasonous to the people in those countries. The group that’s behind the network of control are the Jesuits, and there are also some groups behind them. One of these groups are hominids, they’re not human beings. They are very smart, they are not creative, they are mathematical. They had a much stronger force in the earlier ice-age. They have elongated skulls, they may produce offspring in mating with female humans, but that offspring is not fertile. We live in a world of secret societies, and secrets, and the information that ought to be public is not public.”

Karen held her senior position at the World Bank for twelve years before deciding to blow the whistle on the World Bank and corruption within it. She studies law at Yale Law School and economics at the University of Amsterdam. She worked in the US Export Import Bank of the US from 1980-1985 and in the Legal Department of the World Bank from 1986-2007. She established the Non-Governmental Organization Committee of the International Law Section of the American Bar Association and the Committee on Multilateralism and the Accountability of International Organizations of the American Branch of the International Law Association.

These are shocking statements that come shortly after gaining attention for being a credible world bank whistleblower, stating that the world is in a “currency war,” that the Federal Reserve continues to print money like crazy, and if they keep going at the pace they are on, other countries will no longer accept this currency. She has been exposing criminal corruption that takes place at the highest levels of financial institutions. In 1999, she reported the corrupt take-over of the second largest bank in the Philippines. She’s exposed the collusion that takes place between financial institutions and various governments, and much much more.

This is a great clip of her telling us some important stuff. Before you brush off what she has to say, keep in mind that the reality of many strange phenomenon has a large amount of proof to back it up, or at least be open to the possibility.

http://beforeitsnews.com/power-elite/2014/09/former-world-bank-senior-council-says-a-second-species-on-earth-controls-money-religion-are-these-the-khazars-2446762.html

http://slumz.boxden.com/f605/mar-31-former-world-bank-senior-council-says-a-second-species-on-earth-controls-money-and-religion-2057751/index2.html

http://philosophers-stone.co.uk/wordpress/2014/03/former-world-bank-senior-council-says-a-second-species-on-earth-controls-money-religion/

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Leaked: Bin Laden not buried at sea, body moved on CIA plane to US


I will take this one step further- Osama bin Laden died in 2002 in an American Hospital base from Kidney isses

I will take this one step further- Osama bin Laden died in 2002 in an American Hospital base from Kidney issues

By Shaun Gibson : @ShaunyNews

The body of Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden was not buried at sea, according to leaked emails of intelligence firm Stratfor, as revealed by WikiLeaks

HE LIED TO YOU AMERICA - WIKILEAKS PROVES IT

HE LIED TO YOU AMERICA – WIKILEAKS PROVES IT

Stratfor’s vice-president for intelligence, Fred Burton, believes the body was “bound for Dover, [Delaware] on [a] CIA plane” and then “onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda [Maryland],” an email says. The official version is that the body of Al-Qaeda’s top man, who was killed by a US raid in Pakistan on May 2, 2011, was buried at an undisclosed location at sea in a proper Muslim ceremony. “If body dumped at sea, which I doubt, the touch is very Adolph Eichman like. The Tribe did the same thing with the Nazi’s ashes,” Burton commented in another email. Eichman was one of the masterminds of the Holocaust by Nazi Germany. He was captured by Mossad agents in Argentina and, tried in Israel, found guilty and executed in 1962. His body was cremated and his ashes were scattered at sea over the Mediterranean.

“Eichmann was seen alive for many months on trial before being sentenced to death and executed. No one wanted a monument to him so they cremated him. But i dont know anyone who claimed he wasnt eicjhman [sic]. No comparison with suddenly burying him at sea without any chance to view him which i doubt happened [sic],” Stratfor CEO George Friedman replied. “The US Govt needs to make body pics available like the MX’s do, with OBL’s pants pulled down, to shout down the lunatics like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck,” Burton says in another message.

In another missive Burton says Osama’s body “is a crime scene and I don’t see the FBI nor DOJ letting that happen.”

WikiLeaks began publishing Stratfor emails in late February. The archive was obtained by the hacker group Anonymous, which successfully attacked one of the firm’s servers. More than 5 million emails were apparently stolen. Stratfor is a US-based intelligence firm called the “shadow CIA” by some media. Among its clients are several US agencies and many big companies. The company relies on paid tips from informants placed in high circles of business, government and security all around the world.

 

This was the OFFICIAL IMAGE! Any fool can see it's the same image twice, one has been photoshopped

This was the OFFICIAL IMAGE! Any fool can see it’s the same image twice, one has been photoshopped

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ATTN: – Fwd: [Analytical & Intelligence Comments] Alleged Death of Osama bin Laden

Released on 2012-10-18 17:00 GMT

Email-ID 1804630
Date 2011-05-04 04:24:37
From chris.farnham@stratfor.com
To analysts@stratfor.com
List-Name analysts@stratfor.com
Some one might want to reply to the General…..———————————————————————-

From: Topnife@cox.net
To: responses@stratfor.com
Sent: Wednesday, 4 May, 2011 3:25:56 AM
Subject: [Analytical & Intelligence Comments] Alleged Death of Osama bin
Laden

Wesley Clark sent a message using the contact form at
https://www.stratfor.com/contact.

The Obama Administration has been providing lots of fluffy news about the

attack on a Pakistani mansion, allegedly the home of Osama bin Laden, and
his
consequent demise.
I’m concerned with the factual inconsistencies in the White House account,

and am pleading with you, as an experienced prosecutor, to re-examine the

“facts” as presented.

* An eradication of Osama bin Laden would be a very important
achievement, politically, for President Obama, whose popularity has been
waning steadily. As you have observed, OBL’s death also frees up Obama to

alter strategy in Afghanistan.
* An attack was carried out by our Seal Teams, on a fortified mansion
in
Abbottabad, apparently based upon a supposition that Osama bin Laden was
hiding within.
* It was reported that 40 military personnel attacked in two
Blackhawk
helicopters (Carney news conference 5/3). Blackhawk (UH-60)
specifications
indicate it can carry 14 troops, indicating a serious overload going in.
* One of the helicopters was disabled, and then destroyed.
Therefore,
the one remaining helicopter, with a capacity of 14, transported 40 troops

and the body of the victim.
* It has been reported by White House sources that there were no
guards
or security personnel defending the compound, yet bin Laden has always
been
surrounded by a large security detail.
* Five persons, including one woman, were killed (two couriers, bin
Ladena**s son and his wife, and bin Laden himself. Mr. Carney stated 5/3

that a**bin Laden was not armeda**, yet he was shot in the chest and in
the
head, and killed. Allegedly he was “resisting”, but was not “armed”,
despite
having as much as 20 – 40 minutes to arm himself – he’s usually
photographed
with an AK-47 at hand.
* Shooting an unarmed man is contrary to usual rules of engagement.
* If there were no security guards, and just two a**couriersa**, and
bin
Laden was not armed, with whom did the Seals have a fire-fight for 40
minutes? Two couriers against 40 Seals for 40 minutes?
* Ostensibly, bin Laden was identified by DNA analysis, based upon
comparison to DNA obtained from his sister in the past. DNA analysis for

conclusive identification (multiple loci) has required an extensive
timeline,
on the order of several weeks in the past, and while technology has
undoubtedly improved, it is difficult to imagine this being carried out in
a
crowded and vastly overloaded Blackhawk, or in the basic medical labs
available on an aircraft carrier (Ia**ve served on two). The body was
allegedly flown to the U.S.S. Carl Vinson, from which the body was
deep-sixed, just a few hours later. Is it now standard practice to carry
DNA
analysis labs on all aircraft carriers, as well as spectra of Ms. Bin
Ladena**s DNA for comparison purposes?
* Evidence thus far presented includes a photograph of a bed without
any
information to confirm its location, red stains consistent with blood on
the
floor, an at least questionable assertion that identification was made by
DNA
analysis, and immediate disposal of the body with no chance of recovery or

re-examination, apparently without benefit of autopsy (aircraft carriers
do
not have pathologists on board). One has to ponder the need for the
peculiar
and unseemly haste with which the evidence was destroyed.

I’d appreciate a brief acknowledgment of your receipt of this email.

G. Wesley Clark, MD

Source:
http://www.stratfor.com/themes/al_qaeda?utm_source=diary&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=110503&utm_content=readmore&elq=0c50e144b0fa4ad88770392c5624d3e4

Chris Farnham
Senior Watch Officer, STRATFOR
China Mobile: (86) 186 0122 5004
Email: chris.farnham@stratfor.com
http://www.stratfor.com

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[Analytical & Intelligence Comments] Alleged Death of Osama bin Laden

Released on 2012-10-18 17:00 GMT

Email-ID 1362892
Date 2011-05-03 21:25:56
From topnife@cox.net
To responses@stratfor.com
List-Name responses@stratfor.com
Wesley Clark sent a message using the contact form at
https://www.stratfor.com/contact.The Obama Administration has been providing lots of fluffy news about the
attack on a Pakistani mansion, allegedly the home of Osama bin Laden, and his
consequent demise.
I’m concerned with the factual inconsistencies in the White House account,
and am pleading with you, as an experienced prosecutor, to re-examine the
“facts” as presented.

* An eradication of Osama bin Laden would be a very important
achievement, politically, for President Obama, whose popularity has been
waning steadily. As you have observed, OBL’s death also frees up Obama to
alter strategy in Afghanistan.
* An attack was carried out by our Seal Teams, on a fortified mansion in
Abbottabad, apparently based upon a supposition that Osama bin Laden was
hiding within.
* It was reported that 40 military personnel attacked in two Blackhawk
helicopters (Carney news conference 5/3). Blackhawk (UH-60) specifications
indicate it can carry 14 troops, indicating a serious overload going in.
* One of the helicopters was disabled, and then destroyed. Therefore,
the one remaining helicopter, with a capacity of 14, transported 40 troops
and the body of the victim.
* It has been reported by White House sources that there were no guards
or security personnel defending the compound, yet bin Laden has always been
surrounded by a large security detail.
* Five persons, including one woman, were killed (two couriers, bin
Laden’s son and his wife, and bin Laden himself. Mr. Carney stated 5/3
that “bin Laden was not armed”, yet he was shot in the chest and in the
head, and killed. Allegedly he was “resisting”, but was not “armed”, despite
having as much as 20 – 40 minutes to arm himself – he’s usually photographed
with an AK-47 at hand.
* Shooting an unarmed man is contrary to usual rules of engagement.
* If there were no security guards, and just two “couriers”, and bin
Laden was not armed, with whom did the Seals have a fire-fight for 40
minutes? Two couriers against 40 Seals for 40 minutes?
* Ostensibly, bin Laden was identified by DNA analysis, based upon
comparison to DNA obtained from his sister in the past. DNA analysis for
conclusive identification (multiple loci) has required an extensive timeline,
on the order of several weeks in the past, and while technology has
undoubtedly improved, it is difficult to imagine this being carried out in a
crowded and vastly overloaded Blackhawk, or in the basic medical labs
available on an aircraft carrier (I’ve served on two). The body was
allegedly flown to the U.S.S. Carl Vinson, from which the body was
deep-sixed, just a few hours later. Is it now standard practice to carry DNA
analysis labs on all aircraft carriers, as well as spectra of Ms. Bin
Laden’s DNA for comparison purposes?
* Evidence thus far presented includes a photograph of a bed without any
information to confirm its location, red stains consistent with blood on the
floor, an at least questionable assertion that identification was made by DNA
analysis, and immediate disposal of the body with no chance of recovery or
re-examination, apparently without benefit of autopsy (aircraft carriers do
not have pathologists on board). One has to ponder the need for the peculiar
and unseemly haste with which the evidence was destroyed.

I’d appreciate a brief acknowledgment of your receipt of this email.

G. Wesley Clark, MD

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USA – I Warned You About FEMA Camps And Coffins Bought In Millions


America bought 10's of Millions of these 3 man Coffins - I warned you

America bought 10’s of Millions of these 3 man Coffins – I warned you

By Shaun Gibson : @ShaunyNew

I have been doing blogs for MONTHS now, maybe even over a year, the blog below is from MAY 10th! I seen what many in the USA did not want to see. I tried to warn you America about the FEMA Camps, the 3 man Coffins, how your country was turning into a police state. We see today what these Coffins may be for. All I know is I seen, heard and read about today a year ago. I tried and tried and TRIED to wake up the most asleep nation on EARTH, THE USA! About impeding doom. Sadly religion and other things were too important for the here and now. Sadly I have to ask America again. Why is all this happening below.

Here is the blog below, here is the link: http://shaunynews.com/2014/05/10/a-question-to-the-people-of-the-usa/

There were more 

http://shaunynews.com/2014/04/14/america-you-are-dying-or-already-dead-why-didnt-you-listen-to-us/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/06/23/america-you-are-about-to-be-disarmed-please-watch-and-read/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/06/12/american-gun-control-land-of-the-inprisoned-home-of-the-scared/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/05/05/the-secret-american-militia-underground-resistance/

http://shaunynews.com/2014/04/29/my-confusion-over-scripturereligiongod-help/

BLOG BELOW FROM 12th May = http://shaunynews.com/2014/05/10/a-question-to-the-people-of-the-usa/

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Yeah, Obama signed most of these into power, but it’s someone else’s fault right?

 

This blog will be short and to the point and I am hoping for debate but not counting on it. I with many others around the world believe the USA is now a fascist state, but do you all know what fascism is? If not here it is

Fascism /fæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Influenced by national syndicalism, fascism originated in Italy during World War I, combining more typically right-wing positions with elements of left-wing politics, in opposition to liberalism, Marxism, and traditional conservatism. Although fascism is usually placed on the far right on the traditional left–right spectrum, several self-described fascists as well as some commentators have said that the description is inadequate, when politics and corporations come together and run a country, this is fascism, so you know now

I see every other day new things getting signed away from you in America and all I hear is “Democrat this” and Republican that” This is conqure and divide tactics you have all fallen for. You have all been tricked to dislike each other through politics and religion. I said MANY times and I mean no disrespect, it’s true, America is a very young nation, my last house was older than the USA, so as a nation, you have much to learn. Your education system is 23rd in the World, your Healthcare is 38th in the World, America is so close to becoming a 2nd world country it is untrue.

Sadly when people like me TRY HARD to get you to look up and know you can change I get told a politician you don’t like is to blame. What happened America? Where did you get lost? Over here where the other 96.5% of the world is, we look at the USA and see a war country.

America you have many good people in your boarders trying to help, your military is one of them, yet you argue over exactly what your government want you  to. These images below were made by others, every single image was made by a person like me pleading for you to wake up

Can any of you even explain this image?

Do ANY of you actually see what we see, do you care? You can change things, we did here in Europe many times

Do ANY of you actually see what we see, do you care? You can change things, we did here in Europe many times

Maybe I should just stop with these blogs because I am wasting my time, sadly I can’t because there are people there I care for. I don’t know what happened to you America but know the road ahead is treacherous and the only way back is to go forward and take the pain that is coming, because it will take this for you all to stand up. There is 100% an underground movement in the USA

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The secret “American Militia, Underground Resistance

http://shaunynews.com/2014/05/05/the-secret-american-militia-underground-resistance/

I ask you at least try to talk, wake up, educate yourself on your own county. I am a friend to many Americans, but I am sorry America, you are 3.5% of our World, Rome, USSR (The old Russia) and the English empire all fell, and at the time all held over 20% of the planet. America you can and will fall. Don’t just listen to me, research before it’s too late, please, we do care elsewhere in the World but we look and none of you seem to care and the ones who do are called “Anti-American” Your Government has done it’s job, your next home maybe here

A Fema Camp. Germany called them something else

A Fema Camp. Germany called them something else

Where the FEMA Camps are

Where the FEMA Camps are

I will leave you with disturbing images of the NEW USA 😦

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America bought MILLIONS of these coffins.. Why?

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Below, the constitution does NOT protect you, 100 miles from every border, even the sea! ?

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PLEASE! Understand why I write this to you America!

PLEASE! Understand why I write this to you America!

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Airline Boss: MH370 May Not Be In Indian Ocean


Emirates Airlines boss Sir Tim Clark tells a German magazine that the failure to find any debris raises a "degree of suspicion".

Emirates Airlines boss Sir Tim Clark tells a German magazine that the failure to find any debris raises a “degree of suspicion”.

In a World where we hear the word ‘Conspiracy’ and look the other way, we see here a ‘Conspiracy’ a great huge one at that. What happened to this plane? Where are the people? I have heard many theories but as yet we don’t know. For an Airline boss to say this is “Suspicious” tells us all we need to know

There have been plenty of conspiracy theories about what happened to missing jet MH370 but now the respected head of one of the world’s leading airlines says he believes the plane was not on autopilot at the end and may not even be in the Indian Ocean. Emirates Airlines boss Sir Tim Clark made the controversial comments in an interview with German magazine Der Spiegel. “MH370 was, in my opinion, under control, probably until the very end,” he said. His theory goes against current thinking that the aircraft was on autopilot until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the southern Indian Ocean. He added: “Our experience tells us that in water incidents, where the aircraft has gone down, there is always something.

“We have not seen a single thing that suggests categorically that this aircraft is where they say it is, apart from this so-called electronic satellite ‘handshake’, which I question as well.” The plane that disappeared was a Boeing 777 and Emirates operates 127 such aircraft, more than any other airline. Sir Tim said he was suspicious of the fact that no-one seems to know where the plane ended up. “There hasn’t been one over-water incident in the history of civil aviation – apart from Amelia Earhart in 1939 – that has not been at least 5 or 10% trackable. “But MH370 has simply disappeared. For me, that raises a degree of suspicion. I’m totally dissatisfied with what has been coming out of all of this,” he told the magazine. Sir Tim called for more transparency in the investigation.

He said: “There is plenty of information out there, which we need to be far more forthright, transparent and candid about. “Every single second of that flight needs to be examined up until it, theoretically, ended up in the Indian Ocean – for which they still haven’t found a trace, not even a seat cushion.” Australian Danica Weeks lost her husband Paul on the flight. In response to the comments from the respected airline chief she told Channel 9 news: “He’s the man in the know so why aren’t they talking to us? And what is all the silence about?” Earlier this week the Australian Transportation Safety Bureau (ATSB) said latest analysis suggested the Malaysia Airlines flight went into a slow left turn and spiralled into the Indian Ocean when its fuel ran out. An interim report pointed investigators towards the southern section the current search zone.

Barack Obama – The Lies in one video – Take note Scotland!


This is a World Wide Problem

This is a World Wide Problem

By Shaun Gibson : @ShaunyNews

Many people I speak to from the USA back this man. Now I believe firmly before he took office he was telling the truth, once in office he was told the truth, THAT IS ‘TOW THE LINE’ If anyone thinks this is untrue look to Bush before him. You don’t vote because they count the votes. My country Scotland just seen this up close and personal when we were lied to and freedom was taken from us, for now, we are fighting back, HARD. I want to push this issue hard because STILL people think lies are only told by Scottish media and Scottish people, well, sadly Scotland, take a few notes here, it is a World issue and one we JUST seen up close and personal!

WAKEY WAKEY! 

 https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/10/04/british-politicians-to-face-criminal-investigation-over-scottish-referendum/

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/10/04/police-probe-claims-pro-uk-campaigners-took-illegal-postal-vote-tallies/

This video was made by a few famous American rappers and a few more, should Scotland do the same? 

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The Definitive Scottish Vote Fraud Blog


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I couldn’t reblog this, so I will share and give full credit to http://scottishreferedum.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/polling-day-18th-sept-2014-vote-rigging.html?m=1 for throwing all this together, this probably the biggest and best blog there is on vote fraud we now know the police are looking into on several fronts, none more than Ruth Davidson saying postal votes had been seen and a ‘trend’ was visible. I believe this gave the no camp time to scare people with thousands of calls made to say “vote no” with, what seems threats, fear and lies to old people especially. Anyway, THIS I have blogged it all myself, just not in one place. Enjoy the read, although it may make you angry

Polling Day 18th Sept 2014 & Vote Rigging

Polling Day arrived on 18th Sept. Doors opened at 7am – 10pm. I woke up very early that morning. I can honestly say this was one of the most exciting days of my life. There was hope.  I went to the polling station – mine was Baljaffrey Primary School. No police. Better Together campaigners mind you.  I put my little cross on the paper – should Scotland be an Independent Country – HELL YEAH! The paper – was thin, nothing printed on the back, very odd? I didnt get ID’d either at the polling station. Anyway popped my vote into the box and off I went – hopeful and excited.  Several reports of people showing up to vote only to be told they had ALREADY voted?  Sean McMillian “My cousin went to vote in Stevenston but someone had already voted in her name. Just another example.” Arlene Moran “My friends son went to vote but his vote had already been used they phoned the police but have to report it to the electoral people before they will get involved would this be your local council electoral department ? ” Alan McGillveary : “I personally witnessed two guys turn up to vote no who said their property in the Kelvin ward had already been demolished…How many “phantom” voters in Scotland?” Deceased people getting votes? Minors, under 16 getting votes? Duplicate Votes? Ex-pats living worldwide managing to get votes, often more than one???
My Ballot paper did not look like this – it was thin paper, NOTHING printed on back – no “unique identification number”
Several other people say the same! So how did they get these statistics? How can they tell 65+ voted 75% for NO?

This is a polling card a mother got for her 6 year old son?! A 6 year old could have voted – WHAT? His Passport below……
Polling stations shut 10pm ….. and off to the count 
Now if you live in Scotland – you will know. The media was clearly on the NO side. However the public, the majority were on the YES side. Everywhere you looked there were YES flags, stickers,posters – my friends and family at least 80% YES , and everyone else I spoke to says the same. So the final result came as a MASSIVE SHOCK!
55% Vote NO
45% Vote YES
A statement from Mhairi who was a polling agent at Bannockburn
Posted by RYAN HUNTER in Aberdeen : “I was at the polling station from 7am until the polling station staff left. At 10pm a van turned up and removed signs and the individual polling desks within the polling stations. There was a bus with the driver and 3 or 4 people wearing high visibility vests. The polling station staff boarded the bus. As they were doing so I took a pic” Location :  Danestone congregational church, Aberdeen (Fairview street) First Bus : September 18, 2014 10:14:07PM
1.Did you all know that ballot papers were not picked up under secure conditions? Just some person with no security or surveillance???
2. Riot police cleared everyone from the royal mile at 3am what did they know that none of us knew? Places had licenses to stay open till 5am!
3. Reports all over the place of people working the system to have vote even though they don’t stay here but they have property they rent out.
4. Postal votes have went missing.
5. Big rush on housing market of houses up for sale.
6. Cameron and crew didn’t have any plans for a yes vote….. how confident is that?
7.Bets in Scotland from the people for yes vote were in majority…
8. Possible vote tinkering caught on film….
9.countless stories of intimidation
11 Two evacuations in Dundee… how handy but I still believe most of the rigging went on at a lot of the polling stations before our votes were treated like crap I.e no security any old person and any old van.
and a fact just out of old Scottish humour more than 70% of Scotland depressed….
All these things point to YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT’S BEEN BLOODY RIGGED!
Watch these two videos
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10201496218046165 Have been told this is a Russian video but it shows if it can happen there it can happen here!
Dundee had 2 fire alarms go off, and rooms evacuated for 20 minutes – ballot boxes sitting in room with no supervision.
There was no seals with numbers at Blairhal there was no numbers on the cable ties
A man from Helensburgh and Lomond posted this….
“I’ve just heard via my mother who’s friend was working at one of the counting stations that she witnessed ballot boxes being destroyed and has video evidence and is going to the police with it folks this is actually unbelievable
No Yes Votes, really?
Marc Pat makes a statement about Vote Rigging
Statement from Joyce Armour – who was a polling assistant!
I am posting this photo from the count in Aberdeen..I have circled adjudication place mats on the counting tables..enumerators DO NOT Adjudicate doubtful votes!!!!
Its not possible to pour papers out & for them to come out into a neat bundle like this 
Fife – How can they come out boxes with elastic bands already on?
This was posted in Aug on BT facebook – HOW would they have known 65% of postal votes are no? The postal votes weren’t opened until 18th along with rest?

Ruth Davidson admits Better Together were sampling postal votes

Yes papers on the No Table???
They declared 130,000 + in West Lothian yes? so while we wondering what happened to all the votes in Glasgow and Dundee, West Lothian gained an extra 11,000 from … somewhere!
Quote Mark McNaught ; “I was at the Glasgow vote count and it’s easy to see how the vote could have been rigged. It took place in the cavernous Emirates arena. There were tables spread out over hundreds of metres where observers could walk around and watch the counters separate into yes and no stacks and put them into bundles. I walked around looking over the shoulders of people who were doing informal marking and it looked a blowout for yes. A guy with a computer was tabulating the informal surveys and it looked at least 60-40 for yes in Glasgow. I think the official tally was 53-47. The stacks were put in boxes in the packs which was off limits to anyone. Yes stacks could have been put in no stacks easily. This would have been done by election officials rather than counters. This was in Glasgow where there was more monitoring. Smaller constituencies were even more prone to manipulation. An internationally observed recount needs to take place, if they haven’t already burned the ballots.”

Both Dundee and Glasgow may have voted yes but the figures did not match expectations. Nor did the vote turnout. There is no way this vote was rigged by clerks miscounting, spoiling papers etc. That is not how vote rigging is done.

The most used methods are
1) Scaring the people into an establishment vote, often by violence, sometimes by fear.
2) Swapping ballot papers in large numbers: eg; in an area predominantly for a particular choice, whole boxes would be swapped containing mainly establishment vote.
3) Whole boxes of votes from anti establish enemy areas completely removed and the registers altered to make this look like a lower turnout.
4) Falsifying voters roll – not a likely option, yields a poor return for high risk
The above would require poor security from polls to count or possible temporary evacuation of a polling area for something like a fire scare !
All changing would be done by govt agents eg MI5 not by clerks.
However they would encourage lots of opportunity for vote rigging allegations to be made. When these prove to be nonsense/irrelevant it makes all further accusations seem ridiculous and desperate.
If this vote is rigged it is a long time planned. The clauses re recount/vote in Edinburgh agreement are odd ! No exit poll is also odd !
Bookies paying out early- despite close polls is bizarre and requires fraud squad investigation.
Also – BT announced in AUG that 65% of postal votes were a NO? How would they have possibly known this?
Another little known fact – all postal votes were sent to England first, then back to Scotland? Why?

A Statement from Theresa MacGillivray  “My London based neighbours, who use their Scottish house for Christmas Easter, weekends and part of the summer, (some members of which own property in London and haven’t lived here for years) voted by post, using their Scottish “holiday” home as their address

A statement from Sharon McDonald : “I would like to offer the following observation. I was an enumerator at the referendum vote count on behalf of Renfrewshire Council. The Returning Officer was David Martin, Chief Executive of Renfrewshire Council. 
The vote counting was finished at 2.30am. What then happened appeared to be a mystery to me. 
Mr. Martin and his assistants in suits seemed to be in a flap. This consisted of staring at laptops in front of those who were responsible for collating results and strong words were obviously exchanged. 
As time marched on Mr. Martin paced around the hall rather nervously.
Then there was more meetings up a corridor out of view.
There was one lady with a laptop who it appeared was responsible for collating all the the votes but something wasn’t going well.
She was taken away by one of Mr.Martin’s assistants, out of view of the public, only to return and disconnect her laptop and leave the hall with it under her arm.
Mr.Martin still paced the floor looking uneasy talking to what looked liked aides.
As time passed from 2.30am until declaration time (4.52am) there were visible signs that those in charge weren’t happy with something.
During this process there were observers watching everything that the enumerators were doing but not what was being carried out by those recording on the laptops.
From 2.30am until 4.52am the reason we were given for non declaration was to wait for a TV slot….
I would like my friends to share this to see if there’s any similar experiences, thanks

Quote: ‘These boxes were driven in cars by people on their own. These people were those who also had access to spare tags. We are not insinuating that anyone of these three people would have tampered with the boxes but if this is the system country wide we have a major problem’.

Independence Climber “Last night we challenged the presiding officer regarding the transporting of ballot boxes in single manned cars. Our ballot box was not an issue as it went straight from the hall into the van with the guys to take it to be counted. They had to wait until three personal cars arrived with boxes from other areas. These boxes were driven in cars by people on their own. These people were those who also had access to spare tags. We are not insinuating that anyone of these three people would have tampered with the boxes but if this is the system country wide we have a major problem. When asked what the rules were, she replied, “I do not have that level of information. You will need to wait until tomorrow. It doesn’t matter now anyway. It is too late.” Naturally we were shocked at her attitude and also her lack of understanding of the legal process. We wrote out a statement. Apologies. It was dark. She also made some corrections. I witnessed all three vehicles but the group of us only witnessed two. Hence we only refer to two. The process was the same for the third. I heard her ask the female in one vehicle, “Are you alone?” To which the person replied, ” No, someone followed me but they’ve gone now.” We saw her arrive without escort. The second driver was not asked the question despite also being alone. Why ask if it is not protocol? Someone her is lying or not doing things correctly. Not happy at all. Not sour grapes. Just facts. Made us all feel sick last night.”

SCOTLAND VOTES NO? Really?
NO – 1,914,187
YES – 1,539,920
Why did 1 million people not vote who were registered?
= 3.4Million people
4.3 Million registered to vote
WHAT GIVES? Why go to all that effort of registering and then not vote?
Why that many?
Where are these votes?
And then come the stories :
My in laws went into the council office in Skye and asked for a postal vote (they did this in August) as they would be on holiday. They left on 11th Sept & postal votes never arrived. I phoned up about it & was told they had never registered? They sat and registered in person in the council offices, and the form was faxed for them by the council officer? How is this that they never got their votes? They also said every 2nd house in Skye had YES posters up , yet Skye said NO to Independence! Doesnt make sense.
Note this above & this post from twitter
My friend Tricia McDermott – said her Mum’s postal vote never showed up either. 
Russia has said the conduct of the Scottish referendum “did not meet international standards”, with its observers complaining the count took place in rooms that were too big and that the procedure was badly flawed.
Russia Cries Foul – The Guardian 
“Russia has said the conduct of the Scottish referendum “did not meet international standards”, with its observers complaining the count took place in rooms that were too big and that the procedure was badly flawed. In an apparent attempt to mirror persistent western criticism of Russia’s own elections, Igor Borisov – an accredited observer – said the poll failed to meet basic international norms. Borisov and three other Russians arrived in Edinburgh on Wednesday evening, the state news agency Ria Novosti reported. The team from Moscow’s Public Institute of Suffrage watched voting take place in the Scottish capital and the surrounding area. It also met with Scottish politicians, voters and representatives from non-governmental organisations, Ria said. Borisov said he was unimpressed by what he saw. He said the room where he watched the count on Thursday night was a cavernous “aircraft hangar” next to an airfield. It was difficult to see what was going on, he said, adding: “The hangar is approximately 100m by 300m. There are tables, with voting papers stacked upon them, but the observers are stuck around the perimeter. Even if you want to, it’s impossible to tell what’s happening. It’s also unclear where the boxes with ballot papers come from.” Borisov said the US state department, the UK and other western countries loudly hectored the Kremlin about Russia’s supposed democratic deficiencies. But in this instance, he said, London and Edinburgh had not “fully met” the requirements of a proper referendum.
 “Nobody was interested in who was bringing in the voting slips. There were no stamps or signatures as the bulletins were handed over,” he said”
Just remember – we have oil. Westminster needs Scotland – Scotland is too big an asset therefore for them to simply let go & will do everything under the sun to make sure we cant leave.