Scotland’s main parties to discuss further devolution at Smith commission


Scottish Parliament

Scottish Parliament, Edinburgh

By Shaun Gibson : @ShaunyNews

SCOTLAND’S politicians will put aside party differences today to work on more devolved powers to the Scottish parliament. Representatives from five Scottish parties – two each from the SNP, Labour, the Conservatives, the Lib Dems and the Greens – will be told by Lord Smith of Kelvin to find consensus on bringing new powers to Scotland when they meet in Edinburgh Lord Smith and the politicians are on a tight timetable to deliver the vow made by the pro-Union parties to deliver more powers for Scotland in the event of a No vote. With a Command paper already issued, the parties have to agree a way forward by the end of November . Then the UK Government will put forward draft legislative proposals based on what is agreed in a bill in January.

Lord Smith has the responsibility of getting parties to agree

Lord Smith has the responsibility of getting parties to agree

The bill will be brought forward after the general election by whatever government come in. Reaching consensus on the points that can be agreed will be the easy part in the first formal session of the Smith Commission. The five Scottish parties have already submitted their proposals so everyone is aware of each other’s demands. The focus will be on finding common ground, something Lord Smith is optimistic about. He said: “Having spoken to all of the parties individually, I believe the will is there to reach 
agreement. “Today’s talks give them the chance to sit down together, find common ground and begin the process of delivering what the people of Scotland expect – a package of new powers which will strengthen the Scottish Parliament within the UK.”

Easily-dealt with issues include devolving the powers of the Crown Estate Commission, who own 
the seabeds around the UK and receive rents from Scotland’s fish farm and offshore wind turbine operators. Moving beyond that, there may be agreement on devolving powers such as funds for housing benefit and aspects of welfare including attendance allowance and job training. Nicola Sturgeon has already said that the process must deliver “something substantial.” The First Minister-elect knows independence won’t come out of the talks but wants something very close to it. She said. “The language that was used during the referendum campaign was very clear. The other parties, in seeking to persuade people to vote No, said that more powers would amount to near federalism, a modern form of home rule, devo max.”

Nicola and Alex have all the balls in their side of the court

Nicola and Alex have all the balls in their side of the court  😉

Parties

All 5 must agree

The SNP submission makes great play of the campaign pledges of other party leaders, laying plenty of ground to cry foul if, in their eyes, the powers package falls short of what was solomnly pledged. Alex Salmond, now cast in the role of pointman for the SNP as his formal leadership role fades, has already talked of “betrayal”. The Scottish Government have called for maximum devolution within the UK, including full control over tax and fiscal policy, in a wide-ranging set of proposals stopping just short of full 
independence.But the demands of the SNP and the Greens for devo max powers will sail right over the bar of one of the Commission’s key remits, to maintain the integrity of the UK. The great faultine may not be if the Commission deliver devo-max demands, they will not, but on how much and how far they will go up to that limit.

There are major disagreements between Labour and the Conservatives on the issue of tax devolution . In the run-up to the talks the trickery of David Cameorn on linking whether or not Scottish MPs should continue to be allowed to vote on English-only issues in the House of Commons has fouled the atmosphere . The Tories want to go further on the handover of tax levying powers than Labour do. Complete devolution of tax raising powers would be independence by the back door, Gordon Brown has argued. But the Lib Dems, who want Holyrood to have complete control of the rates and bands of personal income tax, seem unfazed.

The Conservatives and Lib Dems want Edinburgh to be in charge of setting rates and bands of personal income tax while Labour would impose limits, lower than even Brown wants. Brown wants Holyrood to be responsible for raising 54 per cent of its own revenue, quadrupling the figure from the £4billion it currently raises to £18billion in 2016. Scottish Labour want powers that would allow the Scottish Government to raise 40 per cent of their budget. There is plenty of room for the parties to fall out, as they will, but also pressure on them to find 
agreement too.

Meanwhile, former first minister Jack McConnell fired a shot across the bows of the Commission and his own party yesterday saying that the quick fix must stand the test of time. He said: “If you are designing a new tax system for Scotland, the system has to work and be sustainable for at least a number of years. “I hope Lord Smith will note the proposals from the different parties but then start a discussion on the basic principles that should then determine what is delivered.” He added: “Deals reached behind closed doors are not going to reach a semi-permanent solution. This has to be seen as based on principle and stand the test of time.”

The representatives on the commission:

SNP – Scottish Finance Secretary John Swinney and Linda Fabiani MSP.
Scottish Labour – Finance spokesman Iain Gray MSP and shadow work and pensions minister Gregg McClymont MP.
Former Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie will represent her party with Glasgow University law professor Adam Tomkins.
The Scottish Liberal Democrats – Former Scottish Secretary Michael Moore MP and former party leader Tavish Scott MSP.
The Scottish Green Party – Co-leaders Patrick Harvie MSP and Edinburgh councillor Maggie Chapman.

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/22/scotland-main-political-parties-devolution-smith-commission

http://article.wn.com/view/2014/10/22/Scotland_s_main_parties_to_discuss_further_devolution_at_Smi/

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1022/653981-scotland-devolution/

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I Think A Large Majority of Scotland Have Walked Away From Politics


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The statistics read well for the SNP

By Shaun Gibson : @ShaunyNews

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/nicola-sturgeon-tops-politician-trust-rating-poll-way-ahead-of-the-pack/

The blog above I did a few days ago now and I am seeing a very disturbing trend through AceNews and ShaunyNews where I write and also many are saying the same. Scottish people seem to have walked away from Politics. Could you blame them? I don’t know, maybe. And now the 45%+ are being told to ‘Shut up and get on with it’ by the very people who said ‘Vote no’ I find that very interesting.

WE HAVE TO DECIDED SCOTLAND

WE HAVE TO DECIDED SCOTLAND

In a referendum fraught with lies and social media plants Scotland is now more than aware we were tricked at the last second or cheated, take your pick. My blog for example was getting 80,000 views a day on the days leading up the vote and 40,000+ in the weeks leading to the vote, today I am averaging 15,000, this tells me and others who are writing about the referendum that indeed, many Scottish people have walked away.

I ask Scottish people to stay engaged as they were in the lead up to the vote. Should we turn our backs away and leave it be and say ‘Time to get on with life’ We lose. We can do both, we can stay involved and we can get on with life

I urge Scottish people to stay with Politics, Nicola Sturgeon needs our help. We can’t be fooled 3 times now Scotland. 1979, 2014 and we have the 2015 elections coming fast, in these elections Scotland WE MUST say how we feel, we must get Labour out of our Scottish parliament, they lied to us. Ex Labour and UK leader Gordon Brown was the so called ‘Last Second Saviour’ for the no campaign, now he has a petition to make sure London keep its promise

How Stupid must Labour feel. Do not listen to the lies again Scotland, Labour lied, we were lied to, Labour illegally opened 1/4 of the vote, the postal vote to see a trend, they seen a trend showing the over 65’s were voting no, so in the run up, we all know this now, Labour called all the over 65 voters and scared them to death

Scotland already the World are looking at with eyes of “How stupid could you be” We can change this in the 2015 Elections, we must Scotland or all is lost

Lets help Nicola become our history by freeing Scotland

Lets help Nicola become our history by freeing Scotland

Shaun

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The Scottish National Party is now the third largest party in the UK


Huge party now, can we get 2nd and get out this Union?

Huge party now, can we get 2nd and get out this Union?

By Shaun Gibson : @ShaunyNews

Last week the Scottish National Party lost the Scottish referendum vote, and they lost Alex Salmond. But the referendum has galvanised thousands of people to spend their hard-earned cash on membership to the party, according to Chief Executive Peter Murrell. The rise is dramatic; figures have increased by 154% in the last eight days alone, overtaking UKIP and the Lib Dems. 

These new members now make the party the THIRD largest political party in the UK.

These new members now make the party the THIRD largest political party in the UK.

Becoming a member takes 5 minutes and couldn’t be easier, you can donate from £1 to whatever you want a Month https://my.snp.org/join

Amazing Figures And a Huge Message To Westminster

Amazing Figures And a Huge Message To Westminster

The SNP released the figures ahead of the opening of the Scottish parliament, at which Salmond is expected to call for the voting age to be lowered to 16 before May’s general election. The younger age group, enfranchised for the first time in UK history, voted overwhelmingly in favor of independence last week. “With this influx of new members joining the SNP since the referendum – many of them from Labour’s heartlands – the Westminster establishment now face serious pressure to deliver on the substantial new powers for Scotland which the No camp promised during the campaign,” an SNP spokesperson said.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/22/snp-poised-become-largest-political-parties

http://rt.com/uk/189948-snp-membership-surge-referendum/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/scottish-national-party-now-third-4328443

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