Fox News – Megyn Kelly Loses It With Democratic Guest Over Obamacare ‘Lies’

Megyn Kelly Loses It

Megyn Kelly Loses It live on air

By @ShaunyGibson – Used to be @ ShaunyNews

Remember the Article I did on Obamacare and Jonathan Gruber, the MIT health economist who helped craft parts of the Affordable Care Act saying out loud “WE PASSED THE LAW THANKS TO THE ‘STUPIDITY OF THE AMERICAN VOTER” Well here is Megyn Kelly TOTALLY losing it on this exact subject regarding Gruber. Links to older articles and other alternative media below..

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Megyn Kelly Loses It With Democratic Guest Bernard Whitman Over Obamacare ‘Lies’

Via Fox News

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OBAMACARE ARCHITECT: WE PASSED THE LAW THANKS TO THE ‘STUPIDITY OF THE AMERICAN VOTER’

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/obamacare-architect-we-passed-the-law-thanks-to-the-stupidity-of-the-american-voter/

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Often I will tune into Fox News, CNN and other US, Russian, Chinese, Australian news on TV and I caught this earlier today, I think it is a few day old now but it is a television host and political commentator on the Fox News Channel. I started watching the show and, well, lets just say I was stunned. This Jonathan Gruber – “WE PASSED THE LAW THANKS TO THE ‘STUPIDITY OF THE AMERICAN VOTER” Story has truly rattled MANY in the political and media spectrum of the USA. I believe all Healthcare should be free. 3rd World Countries get free Healthcare thanks to the ‘World Bank” Sadly many 1st World Countries have sold their Health Care System to a committee. People who sit on a board of directors making money out of the sick and dying. Well America, you know you get done badly with all you pay in your day to day life, having to pay a fine for not having Obamacare!!! This is not a Democracy America and any way you say it, it’s wrong! And the fine for not having Obamacare is to TRIPLE!! Making the poor, poorer, either way, Uncle Sam is getting your money, and you will still be paying for Dr appointments, hospital visits and prescriptions. This is Capitalism America, no if’s, but’s or maybe’s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

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‘US PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN FOR A SHOCK’ $ FINE FOR UNINSURED NOT SIGNING FOR OBAMACARE TO TRIPLE

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/11/16/us-people-are-going-to-be-in-for-a-shock-fine-for-uninsured-not-signing-for-obamacare-to-triple/

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Megyn Kelly has had it with arguing about Obamacare. The Fox News host had to bury her head in her hands during an interview with Democratic strategist and pollster Bernard Whitman. On Tuesday night, the two were debating the recent video footage showing Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist Jonathan Gruber, who helped draft the Affordable Care Act, saying that the “stupidity of the American voter” helped to pass Obamacare in 2010.

Whitman, to Kelly’s disbelief, argued that the Affordable Care Act has in fact brought success and that “everybody knew exactly what they were getting.” “Oh, my God,” Kelly said. “Seriously? Seriously? Everyone knew what they were getting? Is that what you want the viewers to believe?” “My head is about to explode,” she said, planting her head face down in her palms.

But Kelly continued to fight back throughout the interview, arguing that the law was passed “based on a lie.” “They [the government] rely on people that lie to our faces!” she shouted.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/12/megyn-kelly-obamacare-gruber-bernard-whitman_n_6144852.html

http://forums.ufcfightclub.com/topic/177313-megyn-kelly-loses-it-with-democratic-guest-over-obamacare-lies/

http://thenewsontime.com/2014/11/12/megyn-kelly-loses-it-with-democratic-guest-over-obamacare-lies/

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‘US People Are Going To Be In For A Shock’ $ Fine For Uninsured Not Signing For Obamacare To Triple

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Fined for not buying Health insurance is Alien to me. I don’t get it, can’t get my head around it. Health care should be free for all.

By @ShaunyGibson – Used to be @ShaunyNews

I lose my mind with this ‘Obamacare’ issue. Here in Scotland, seeing your Dr, Going to Hospital for tests, getting prescriptions, getting your medication, everything is free. Why is it small countries like Scotland, Sweden, Norway and most of Europe can afford free Healthcare to their people and the mighty USA can’t? This may be hard for people with money and good medical plans in the USA to understand but this new law will kill people. Many, around 45% in America are ‘Breadline’ poor, living wage to wage, food stamp to food stamp. I don’t understand this. Americans, you sure as hell get taxed for almost everthing.

Religious defines this. America does this not makle you angry?

Religious defines this. America does this not makle you angry?

Obamacare Architect: We Passed the Law Thanks to the ‘Stupidity of the American Voter’

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/obamacare-architect-we-passed-the-law-thanks-to-the-stupidity-of-the-american-voter/

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So who REALLY are the stupid people? The US Government say “You”

WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — Americans will see their bank accounts shrink if they don’t sign up for Obamacare in its second enrollment season. Uninsured Americans who decide not to enroll will face a penalty of $325 per person, more than tripling the $95 penalty those who did not enroll had to pay the first time around.Children under the age of 18 will be fined $162.50. The maximum amount an uninsured family will be penalized is $975 under the flat-rate method. “The penalty is meant to incentivize people to get coverage,” Laura Adams, senior analyst of InsuranceQuotes.com, told CBS News. “This year, I think a lot of people are going to be in for a shock.”

American Media reports that many Obamacare plans will be charging more as a 27-year-old earning 250 percent of the poverty rate will now have to pay an average of 7 percent more for the lowest-cost bronze plan. The analysis from Investor’s Business Daily found that the lowest-cost silver plan will rise 9 percent and the lowest-priced catastrophic policy will go up by 18 percent.

HHS Secretary: ‘The Affordable Care Act Is Working’

Adams stated that very few uninsured Americans don’t understand the penalties they are facing. “There is very little awareness of this,” she told CBS News. “Until people understand the financial consequences, they don’t have an incentive.”The Health and Human Services Department said earlier this week that between 9 to 9.9 million Americans will receive health care plans through the Affordable Care Act marketplaces for next year’s coverage. That’s lower than the 13 million estimated by the Congressional Budget Office.The bugs have supposedly been removed from the famously troubled http://www.healthcare.gov website, which can withstand last season’s peak loads and beyond with at least 125,000 simultaneous users. The online application has been pared from 76 screens to 16 for most consumers. The “young invincible” crowd of 18-to-36 year olds is crucial to the law’s success because insurance companies need their business to offset the costs of covering older, sicker and more expensive enrollees.

What Has The Affordable Care Act Accomplished A Year Later?

Experts say education is one of the biggest challenges as many consumers only focused on the low monthly premium last year and didn’t understand the potentially high deductible and out-of-pocket costs. Consumers were confused when they discovered their doctor wasn’t in their plan’s network or that they had to pay for testing because deductibles hadn’t been met.Insurance companies say volume will always be an issue because open enrollment coincides with Medicare enrollment and many large groups also renew their policies in January. But insurers say they’ve expanded Internet bandwidth, added staff and increased customer service hours.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/11/12/people-are-going-to-be-in-for-a-shock-penalty-for-uninsured-not-signing-up-for-obamacare-to-triple/

http://newsok.com/people-are-going-to-be-in-for-a-shock-penalty-for-uninsured-not-signing-up-for-obamacare-to-more-than-triple/article/5366080

http://lunaticoutpost.com/showthread.php?tid=486239

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USA: Obamacare Opens Its Doors Again to Fund ‘Abortions’ With Your Tax Dollars

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By @ShaunyGibson – Used to be @ShaunyNews

First I can’t believe you pay a fine if you don’t have ‘Medical Insurance’ and also there is an ‘Abortion Tax” America you are being bent over a bench and screwed. They are coming for your pensions next. I will add a video here by George Carlin and he is 100% correct, from the grave he is telling us all what America is in 2014, it’s a big club for the wealthy who don’t care about the poor. This comes on the back of Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber of MIT health economist saying on record. in a video on the link an inch below “We Passed the Law Thanks to the ‘Stupidity of the American Voter” I mean how much more of this can one country take? I actually agree, I think Obamacare should fund abortion, it will fund everything else and America, you will pay no matter what, this is the new way. Fines for breathing will be next, seriously, you guys best do something, shout, scream, call the police (NO, SUGAR LUMPS, DON’T DO THAT) DO SOMETHING AMERICA…This lad here, speaking from the grave is 100% correct. He is a comedian, people laugh, but I hope people also get the message. Being a singer or a comedian gives you a free pass to tell the truth, and this is good. 1 Minute 10 Seconds in is SPOT ON!

Obamacare Architect: We Passed the Law Thanks to the ‘Stupidity of the American Voter’

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/obamacare-architect-we-passed-the-law-thanks-to-the-stupidity-of-the-american-voter/

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Later this week the federal and state exchanges created under Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, will open for their second year of operation. After last year’s rugged rollout, with extremely expensive web sites that functionedobamacare6 poorly, the Obama Administration has invested millions more in fixing the federal site, healthcare.gov, and is promising better performance. It is far from clear that this improvement will happen, and in the area of abortion coverage nothing is clear at all.

Replying to a media question at a recent session with Obamacare allies in Washington, D.C., Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell addressed whether the second year of health care exchanges to be unveiled this November 15 will include information on whether each plan covers abortion on demand. “With regard to the question of this open enrollment,” Burwell mused, “working through the plans that are in place, for the most part, we’re finalizing those plans. So in terms of how the communication is going to work, we’ll have to see how quickly we can get the communication out and where we are.” “We’ll have to see” doesn’t sound reassuring.

The rolling dismissal of the Obama Administration for basic matters of transparency is regrettable.  Lest anyone forget, the Affordable Care Act was passed in early 2010.  A central issue that roiled its final passage was the failure of Congressional Democrats to retain in the bill a comprehensive bipartisan amendment designed to ensure that the ACA excluded funding for abortions and for plans that included elective abortion coverage.

Now, nearly five years later, the fact of widespread subsidies for elective abortion coverage is fully documented, and the many other ways Obamacare expands abortion funding – the largest of them via state Medicaid expansion – are manifest.  Thanks to a report from the Government Accountability Office (GAO), we know for certain that at least 1,036 health plans offered on the purchasing exchanges, and thus eligible now for massive tax subsidies, cover abortion in any and all circumstances.

The problem is, we know this thanks not to HHS and the $1.7 billion in public monies initially spent on the exchange websites, but to GAO and a request by Hill Republicans that the watchdog agency do what Burwell’s predecessor, Kathleen Sebelius, repeatedly promised would be done and failed to deliver.  What’s more, we know it for plans already chosen by American consumers and already in force – but not for plans that will be online and available for purchase in just a few days.

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We know several other things.  Health insurers who are required by law to collect a nominal abortion surcharge from subscribers to these heavily subsidized plans are generally not doing so.  We know this from the GAO report as well, which found that 15 of 18 plans examined were not bothering even with this bookkeeping exercise.  The Administration and many columnists believe the surcharge should assuage taxpayers about involvement in a major expansion of abortion funding.  But imagine yourself as a defendant in a bank robbery arguing that, yes, you bought the getaway car, had advance knowledge of the crime, and stood to benefit from it, but made the bandits pay for their own gas.

Pace Secretary Burwell, we have already seen how “quickly” HHS “can get the communication out” about various features of Obamacare.  It has been agonizingly slow, and many times longer than the time it took the much-less-lavishly-funded GAO to tell us what happened last year in the federal exchanges.

Now a coalition of research groups, including the Charlotte Lozier Institute, has formed once again to ferret out information from insurance companies that should be readily available on each of the plans they sell.  It will be a difficult process.  The insurance companies’ brokers, chat rooms, and plan documents have a way of turning official indifference into everyday obfuscation.

But no one should lose sight of the bottom line.  Obamacare’s limits on abortion funding are a sham and its level of transparency is low.  The law represents a massive shift of values from the ideals of competition, respect for conscience, and preference for life over the destructive alternative of abortion.  There are glitches in the law, but the true glitch in this area is the law.

The real question is, will the new Congress elected on November 4 repeal it?  Soon-to-be Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker John Boehner wrotepost-election that we can be sure of renewed commitment to repeal it.  That is welcome news, especially if the law is replaced with one that reflects the need for values-driven health plans.  In the meantime – meaning this coming Saturday – health insurance buyers must be able to identify which plans cover elective abortion before they (and you, the taxpayers) sign up for 2015.

http://www.lifenews.com/2014/11/12/obamacare-opens-its-doors-again-to-fund-abortions-with-your-tax-dollars/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+lifenews%2Fnewsfeed+%28LifeNews.com%29

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Obamacare Architect: We Passed the Law Thanks to the ‘Stupidity of the American Voter’

REALLY! WHO IS THE STUPID ONE? THIS MUST BE FACED UP TO AND LOOKED AT AMERICA

REALLY! WHO IS THE STUPID ONE? THIS MUST BE FACED UP TO AND LOOKED AT AMERICA

‘Stupidity of the American Voter’

By @ShaunyGibson – Used to be @ShaunyNews

I have been writing for a few year now that “IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO THE USA VOTE FOR IN AN ELECTION,  THE LAWS WILL BE THE SAME, FOREIGN POLICY WILL BE THE SAME AND NOTHING WILL CHANGE” And here we have a video where one of the main architects of ‘Obamacare’ is saying, live, on record “We needed the STUPIDITY OF THE AMERICAN VOTERS” How much more will you take America before you understand and realise that you are being played. You have no vote, your vote does not count, because they count the vote. Hillary Clinton will be your next President America, I have seen the proof, it has been decided. So in the next POTUS election it matters not who you vote for, Hillary will get the ticket. I am not writing this and calling American people stupid, I am telling you that “The leaders, the main players” in the American political system know the American people are stupid and gullible. So I ask the question, are you? This is a video below where Johnathan Gruber says “We needed the Stupid American Voters” WOW…America? you got anything to say on this. This isn’t rumour or hearsay, this is proof, via a Video I got, press play below..

One of the architects of Obamacare said the law was written in a deliberately “tortured” way and relied on the “stupidity of the American voter” to ensure its passage. In a newly unearthed 2013 clip, Jonathan Gruber, the MIT health economist who helped craft parts of the Affordable Care Act, got fairly candid about the tactics used to get the Affordable Care Act passed during a panel at the Annual Health Economists’ Conference last year. “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure [the Congressional Budget Office] did not score the mandate as taxes,” Gruber said in one 52-second clip. “If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. OK, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk-rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed.” Gruber then trumpeted the value of a “lack of transparency” — and called American voters stupid. “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber said. “And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass.” Better for the American people to be saddled with a law they don’t understand, Gruber claimed, than for them to understand the law and rally against it. “Look, I wish … we could make it all transparent,” Gruber said, “but I’d rather have this law than not.”

Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber said that lack of transparency was a major part of getting Obamacare passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have killed the law if more people knew what was in it. Gruber, the MIT professor who served as a technical consultant to the Obama administration during Obamacare’s design, also made clear during a panel quietly captured on video that the individual mandate, which was only upheld by the Supreme Court because it was a tax, was not actually a tax.

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that.  In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed… Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass… Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/09/obamacare-architect-lack-of-transparency-was-key-because-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-would-have-killed-obamacare/

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