Taboo Series: Religion, Scripture and logical thinking


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8-8-2011

By @ShaunyGibson – Used to be @ ShaunyNews

As part of my ‘Taboo’ series I want try and get my own mind around certain topics. I don’t and would never try to call into question another’s happiness, so this really is me asking simple questions. Today the title say it all, Scripture Vs Logical Thinking. I have said many times ‘Religion ruins our World’ then I backtrack and say ‘But in reality it is the people in Religion’ And I am one of many to believe this, for some reason Atheism is now classes as a religion, I ask how can non-belief in religion, the bible and all it tells us makes people who don’t believe these words religious in anyway, strange huh.

I will give a few examples where we apply logic and see the story is impossible. The first one is ‘Noah’s Ark’  The bible tell this story here:

Noah’s Ark (Hebrew: תיבת נח‎; Biblical Hebrew: Tevat Noaḥ) is the vessel in the Genesis flood narrative (Genesis chapters 6–9) by which God saves Noah, his family, and a remnant of all the world’s animals from the flood. God gives Noah detailed instructions for building the ark: it is to be of gopher wood, smeared inside and out with pitch, with three decks and internal compartments; it will be 300 cubits long (137.16 m, 450 ft), 50 wide (22.86 m, 75 ft), and 30 high (13.716 m, 45 ft); it will have a roof “finished to a cubit upward”; and an entrance on the side. The story goes on to describe the ark being afloat throughout the flood and subsequent receding of the waters before it came to rest on Mount Ararat. The story is repeated, with variations, in the Quran, where the ark appears as Safina Nuh (Arabic: سفينة نوح‎ “Noah’s boat”).

The Genesis flood narrative is similar to numerous other flood myths from a variety of cultures. The earliest known written flood myth is the Sumerian flood myth found in the Epic of Ziusudra.

There is no scientific evidence supporting a global flood. Searches for Noah’s Ark, sometimes mockingly referred to as “archaeology”, have been made from at least the time of Eusebius (c.275–339 AD) to the present day. Despite many expeditions, no scientific evidence of the ark has been found.

Now let’s apply logic. Look at the time this is meant to have happened, I ask how Kangaroo’s left Australia, I ask how Polar Bears managed to get down from the North Pole, how did the Moose get from the North Americas? Now please remember the time, year and technology of the time, this is vital here. I could go on and on with any animal. A friend and I debated this lately and I love to debate, many assume hatred or ‘Point scoring’ but all that does is reaffirm my belief that Religion causes hatred division and more. I believe this story could be true but true in a sense of Noah’s time, Noah’s World, his place and his time. Try and do this today, 2 of every species, all 4 Million plus species of Animal, 2 off each and try get them onto a boat that would have to be huge, perhaps a mile long and don’t forget half of every species would have eat the other half, unless the boat was 10 mile long with cages for every species, long shot right? and remember the species that have perished as a species by the hand of man. Now there is a loophole for two species, this would be the swimming and flying animals. There is just no way this fete could be done in 2014, never mind the time stamp the bible would have us believe, this story for me is IMPOSSIBLE. Many have faith in the story and are scared to let logic into the story. I go back to the Woman I spoke to who didn’t believe Dinosaurs roamed Earth’s surface many millions of years ago. There is faith and there is stupid blind faith. Again I mean no disrespect but to believe things logic or Science (I will get to Science) would tell them is ‘Impossible’ because it is.

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Many believe Noah’s ark was found

 

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Noah's Ark

Inside the boat they found

How It Was Discovered

In 1959, Turkish army captain Llhan Durupinar discovered an unusual shape while examining aerial photographs of his country. The smooth shape, larger than a football field, stood out from the rough and rocky terrain at an altitude of 6,300 feet near the Turkish border with Iran.

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NOW LETS LOOK AT LIFE

Life has found a way to live on the outside of the ISS

Life has found a way to live on the outside of the ISS

This one I know people will have an answer for but I am going to take in a whole new direction.

“O Lord, our Lord, How majestic is Thy name in all the earth, Who hast displayed Thy splendor above the heavens! …When I consider Thy heavens, the work of Thy fingers, The moon and the stars, which Thou has ordained; …O Lord, our Lord, How majestic is Thy name in all the earth!”

Above is scripture I have no idea what bible it came from or the verse and all that. The problem I have with Religion and the Bible is ‘Life’ God is said to have places 2 Humans on Earth, one man, one woman, the woman being made from one of Man’s ribs. Why? Why would God take a Rib from Man to create Woman? He is all powerful and all able right? Why didn’t he just put a woman there? When I read this I see an ‘Anti Woman’ type argument. So Man had to give something up in order for Woman to live? or be created? I don’t get that.

It was proven life can live in many places, just lately life was found to live on the outside of the International Space Station (ISS) Now this brings huge implications to the Bible argument. Life can exist half a mile below and in Ice. Life can exist near a Lave fisher 5 mile down on the seabed, life is extraordinary, it is more than amazing. We have the ‘Creationism Vs Evolution’ question and it can be hard to believe either. If Man (Why always man?) came from Apes then I ask ‘Why do we still have apes and not what they evolved from’ You follow? If we came from Apes where is the lineage from before Apes? What did Apes evolve from? Therein we have the ‘Missing Link’

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The Philae lander has found organic molecules – which are essential for life – on the surface of the comet where it touched down last week. The spacecraft managed to beam back evidence of the carbon and hydrogen–containing chemicals shortly before it entered hibernation mode to conserve falling power supplies. Although scientists are still to reveal what kind of molecules have been found on comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko, the discovery could provide new clues about how the early chemical ingredients that led to life on Earth arrived on the planet.

Molecules have been found on comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenk

Molecules have been found on comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenk

Above is Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenk, the Philae lander spaceship detected life on a COMET! How versatile is life? Isn’t it amazing? Life can and does exist anywhere and in any condition. Life has survived many ‘E.L.E’s’ Extinction Level Events and every time, life has survived thus allowing me to write this and you to read it. I don’t have the answers and something I can be sure is neither do you. You have ‘FAITH’ You believe with all your heart these impossible feats in the Bible are true to the point of writing. Every word is believed.

The Irony is, Science will in the end tell is what is true and what is impossible, can you feel the irony? Talk it up peeps. I hope debate can happen here

This is where Science and Religion meet with logic. One thing I will say is, IT IS TOTALLY SUPERB TO RESEARCH 

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Defining life in a confusing World


Little Shaun, me, Isle of Skye, I was maybe 10 years old, I don't know

Little Shaun, me, Isle of Skye, I was maybe 10 years old, I don’t know

By @ShaunyGibson – Used to be @ShaunyNews

A question I always ask myself is ‘Why’ This could apply to any given situation through my history, my life or Earth’s history. As many know I love to research but I also love to research how far my own feelings define me as a 41 year old lad from Scotland. See my life was never easy but I felt it was. It is very hard to explain. Where there should have been hurt, pain and more, there was not. I sometimes challenged myself to have feelings and all along I did, I just denied myself ‘Feelings’
I told my story once and I will share it here. The reason for this article being about me and not news is because I really do hope I can get more friends, understand people better and understand our World better. The link below I did (Thanks Mel x) on Deliberate Donkay. A family member replied in the comments, kinds odd I thought at the time, the feel of the reply, but it made it more real a person in my history replying.
This is my story: http://deliberatedonkey.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/murder-and-more-through-the-eyes-of-a-child/
I grew up in a bad place, a bad area of town I now know to be bad, at the time I thought was heaven, at the time being a kid, I knew no better, it was my existence. Not until you walk away from something do we see it for what it is, not what we hoped or thought. I am called a ‘Writer’ these days but don’t see myself as such. People in my life will say ‘Oh Shaun you are a writer now’ In an instant I think ‘No I am not’ But I guess I am in some form. Had someone told me I was doing this at this moment in time in my life 20 years ago I would have done a bad deed. This was my life for a long time. I had a dysfunctional family, we were loved but hurt was always there, I guess young Shaun to the left in that boat refused to see or feel the hurt.

Little Shaun is circled in red bottom left, this was 'Family'

Little Shaun is circled in red bottom left, this was ‘Family’

This is ‘Ace News Services’ and I know many will be thinking “This isn’t news” Well let me explain this. Why I write this today. I want to help Ace News become global, this is my Editors design and I follow his lead, it’s why I closed ‘Shauny News’ with almost 1,000,000 (1 Million) hits in 5 months. See I never cared for ‘Well done’ or ‘Congratulations’ I guess I hate flattery. I have asked many times why this is and I always come back to the answer ‘Other people helped’ and this is true. If you are reading and you write also then isn’t what you write inspired by others? It is never about numbers of for me, it’s about quality. Quality over quantity. But for people to understand why I write as I do, I must share why I came to be today.
I am disabled now, yes I know, ‘Boo Hoo’ So I have time to sit and think and I am not my best company. What I mean is I get bored being alone, I am not good company for myself. Over time I found a source of company that many call ‘God’ and that is my source of not being alone. Many will go to Church or Read the bible or both, me? not yet I say. I have a relationship with God. I told my Mum the other day in a text, I don’t know if she believes me but I can only be me. The past can keep a person trapped in the past without them knowing or understanding. I let the past go, today I laugh, Smile and love life. Only when I am around certain people do I see the past again. I am trying to change this and I will. I just need time. Often a song can change us, define us, make us see something different, bring love to our door. This is my Song with my Partner. This song saved my life. My Partner showed me ‘Real Love’ a real life, a different life, a ‘Perfect Day’

Today I am no longer the tortured soul I once was after all the bad things I did. But I believe in Karma. I am in agony always, this is my Karma hurting me for the bad I did. I ask, what is your Karma? I am asking out loud not to one person. I said to a loved one, a person I would die for “You don’t know me” And I was right to say it, I said it in the wrong context. So I guess I should have said “We don’t know each other no more” But time heals all things I am sure of this. Only when we understand there are problems can we mend them. Sure I open my soul to the World a lot but I would rather be known for telling the truth, being Shaun and being honest. Why make yourself out to be something you ain’t? My 20 year old son left the family home 2 weeks ago now and I was deeply upset. A family member, saying what he felt needed said and meaning it in the right way said “Grow a pair” He may be right. But for me to change now would be an outcry on myself.

See, we are all alive, sadly some choose to become dead, dead to feelings, dead to the World and dead to themselves. I have never figured this out, but I will. I guess we all carry ourselves in a different way. Anyone with Fibro will know Fibro speaks for us sometimes. When stress happens, pain happens. For me to get people I truly love deeply to just understand that line, no more, no less, is hard. I need loved ones to know I smile, I am blessed, and I am happy. The past hauntes me, I can’t change the past so I don’t let it define me. It can haunt away, it won’t beat me. I can’t allow it. So here I am, love me, hate me, like me, struggle to understand me, whatever. Here I am!

This is Shaun, this is my life, this is why I write.

More love, less hate
Shaun

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Before we blame Russia for blowing up flight MH17, lets watch this


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I have been watching video’s all day, some obviously made by people, but a few caught my eye in terms of “It doesn’t fit what we are told” It doesn’t fit the official story. The easy thing right now is for the World to be angry at Russia, but remember, we have been here before. When 9/11 happened Americans wanted everyone in the Middle East dead. When 7/7 happened (Tube and Bus bombs in London) Most of us wanted the same people dead. When the 2 terrorists ran a car into an Airport 45 miles from my home, we wanted someone to pay.

What I am saying is, we all quickly look to blame. Now this plane was still on fire and the Main Stream Media were blaming Russia. Now go back in your mind to 9/11, before the towers even fell Osama Bin Laden was to blame, the American Main Stream media knew the political script, it was Bin Laden, so America went to Iraq, killing thousands. Yeah I don’t get that either.

What I am saying here is, we are all angry, but before we all blame Russia I ask you watch this video, you probably have seen it. It is voiced over by Daboo7 a good lad who does You Tube like I write. He asks a very simple question. If the plane had been shot down, why was there no trail coming down the way AT ALL! Check when the explosion happens there is nothing coming off it, there are no trails of smoke, nothing. I take from that the plane just crashed. But I may be wrong. So I ask, what do you think?

Check:

Malaysia Flight MH17: What The MSM Isn’t Telling You!

BUT. Look at this video and we see no trail. I am just asking a question here 

Tory child abuse whistleblower: ‘I supplied underage rent boys for Margaret Thatcher’s cabinet ministers’ As Media go to for Tories and Westminster HARD


Via The People and Daily Mirror and self research

3 HUGE Media hits against the ‘Establishment’ and ‘No for Scotland’ Today. Is there an Agenda? I just did this on two, now a third one. https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/07/13/questions-over-better-togethers-lies-over-registration-for-referendum-role-as-sundays-media-attack-westminster/ Why would 3 HARD HITS come in one day? This could bring down The Conservative Party and much of Government. I am thinking is this some ploy to keep Scotland thinking ‘All will be well’ If so, PLEASE DON’T BE FOOLED, they did this before. But lets stick to these 3 stories today

Thatcher covered up Conservative Sex Scandal – WOW MEDIA ARE GOING WITH IT!

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/07/13/questions-over-better-togethers-lies-over-registration-for-referendum-role-as-sundays-media-attack-westminster/

STORY 1
BETTER Together’s place in the referendum campaign was last night thrown into confusion, after it emerged its official application to take part contained the wrong address.

STORY 2
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/questions-over-better-togethers-registration-for-referendum-role.24741622

Now this!! STORY 3!

Senior Tory cabinet ministers were supplied with underage boys for sex parties, it is sensationally claimed. Former Conservative activist Anthony Gilberthorpe said he told Margaret Thatcher 25 years ago about what he had witnessed and gave her names of those involved. His allegations that he saw top Tories having sex with boys comes after David Cameron launched a Government inquiry into claims of a cover-up. Anthony, 52, said: “I am prepared to speak to the inquiry. I believe I am a key witness.” Trawling seedy streets during a Tory conference, Gilberthorpe says he was asked to find underage rent boys for a private sex party at a top hotel.

Today, more than three decades later, he claims he was acting on the orders of some of the most senior figures of Margaret Thatcher’s government. Anthony says he was a ­full-time ­political activist when he helped procure the “youngest and prettiest” boys for several cabinet ministers after being told to find “entertainment”. In a series of explosive claims about conferences at Blackpool and Brighton in the 1980s, he alleges boys as young as 15 indulged in alcohol and cocaine before they had sex with the powerful politicians. He says one person who attended a party is a current serving minister. Others said to be present at the parties included Keith Joseph, Rhodes Boyson, Dr Alistair Smith and Michael Havers

As a young aspiring politician, Mr Gilberthorpe admits being in awe of the men, but now insists: “They ­manipulated and groomed me to do their bidding.” He said: “I was just 17 when I first went to a conference in Brighton in 1978. I couldn’t believe I was rubbing ­shoulders with all these important people and I couldn’t believe that they were taking such a keen interest in me. I would have done anything for them because I was so desperate to make it in politics. “During the years I was attending conferences between 1978 and 1985, I was a full-time political activist. At the same time I was running for office in district and county council elections.”


Cabinet Minister: Former Education Secretary Keith Joseph

Mr Gilberthorpe claims that at the 1983 Blackpool conference he was asked by Dr Alistair Smith – the Tory Party Chairman in Scotland – to arrange for young rent boys to have sex with two high-profile cabinet ministers, who we are not naming today. Other MPs at that party were said to include Rhodes Boyson and Keith Joseph. In that week he presented the ­then-Prime Minister Mrs Thatcher with a cake to mark her 58th birthday. But he says he also had a more sordid role – using his young looks to find these underage boys for her ministers. At the time, the age of consent made it illegal to have gay sex with anyone under 21-years-old. He said: “Dr Smith, who I looked up to at the time and was the most ­important Tory in Scotland, told me to go and fetch some ‘entertainment’, which was code for young boys and handed me a handful of bank notes. There was about £120.” Mr Gilber-thorpe claims he was not shocked by the request.

He said: “It was a norm and an open secret that these older members of the Tory party, like
Dr Alistair Smith, paid for young men to join them at sex parties. “It was the first time I was asked to fetch them but it was hardly surprising as I was becoming one of their trusted people. There was a well known and used cruising area close to the Imperial Hotel, which was a conference hotel. The hotel was not open to the public. “I was expected to find the youngest and prettiest boys. It was what those men wanted. “In fact it was all they wanted. “So myself and another Tory candidate walked down there and sat on some benches underneath an archway in the Pavilion area of Blackpool and waited.”


Attorney General: Lord Michael Havers

He said they were approached within minutes by a “guy aged about 20” called James. He went on: “I asked him if he wanted to come back to the hotel and he said ‘yes’. We asked if he had any
mates and he went away and came back with two boys who were aged about 15 and no older. “It was a surreal situation as we were dressed in suits and ties and they were wearing jeans. “We said we would make it worth their while and the older one held out his hand and I passed him the money to share out. I promised him there would be plentiful amounts of free booze.”

Mr Gilberthorpe claims he then asked hotel security to contact a man inside who worked at the Conservative Party Central Office to arrange for the three rent boys to be given security clearance and special badges that would allow them to enter the Imperial. He said: “All MPs, members of the National Executive and chosen delegates were given name badges that allowed you access to the conference hotel. “Some of them had a small Oscar sign in the corner which was a code to allow others to know you were allowed into these secret parties.” He claimed the Hollywood-style Oscar symbol was actually in honour of gay writer and poet Oscar Wilde. Once inside the Imperial, he says the group walked up several flights of stairs to a room where politicians were waiting for them, along with a table of cocaine.


In attendance: Rhodes Boyson at the Conservative party conference in Blackpool, 1987

He said: “We took them straight upstairs and into a room where Dr Smith and other MPs were waiting for them at the party. They were given drinks and cocaine to snort and then they were all moved into the centre of the room.” Mr Gilberthorpe said he witnessed two senior Tories having sex with the boys. He said: “A couple of other MPs were in the room. I can clearly remember seeing one politician, who is now a serving Tory MP, standing there and watching.” Mr Gilberthorpe also claims that two years earlier in 1981 he saw Sir Michael Havers – then Attorney General – at a swimming pool party at the Tory conference in Blackpool, where underage boys were encouraged to perform sex acts on several politicians, who we are also not naming today. He recalled: “In 1981 I was invited back to the Imperial Hotel by a ­Conservative councillor. “He was a big player in the notorious right-wing group the Monday Club. “We arrived at around midnight and I was led down some stairs to a door where two men were stood as security.

“We were allowed to enter and I was led through a tiled changing room where there were piles of clothes strewn across the floor. We then walked into an area where there was a large pool and lots of men either stood around naked or simply wrapped in towels. “Among the MPs I recognised in there were Keith Joseph and Rhodes Boyson. I saw the Attorney General Michael Havers down there as well. “There were a couple of glass tables set up as a mini bar with bottles of spirits on them and there was cocaine on several tables. I saw several boys who were clearly aged between 15 and 16 down there and I saw that a few were performing sex acts on MPs. “Other young men were acting as waiters walking around with little black bow ties on. I was completely shocked by it because I was still only 20 and I had never seen anything like it.” He added: “I stayed for a couple of hours but was tired because a conference was always a boozy affair where mainly spirits were drunk in large ­quantities from about 5pm onwards.”


Request: Smith ‘asked for young boys’

Mr Gilberthorpe, now 52, says he also attended a sex party at the Grand Hotel in Brighton during the Conservatives’ 1984 conference. On the night before the seafront hotel was hit by an IRA bomb attack, he claims he saw senior MPs engaging in sex acts with boys below the age of consent at a “corridor party” held in a row of rooms on the fourth floor. He said: “There were two guys on the door at the end of the corridor and because we were in the group I was allowed to enter. Several doors were left open and others were closed.

“There were several men walking from one room to another and enjoying sex acts with other naked men, including boys who were clearly only about 15 or 16 years old. I saw Keith Joseph there and a politician who is now still a serving MP. “It was held on the night before the bomb went off and afterwards one MP crudely joked that it was a good job it was, or there would have been rent boys falling through the floor.” Mr Gilberthorpe, who decided to finally break his silence because he fears an Establishment cover-up, also claims that in the aftermath of the bombing, in which five people were killed, he was asked to look after two rent boys.

He said: “I rushed over there from my hotel after I heard the blast and saw Keith Joseph stood outside in a blanket.” Yesterday he said: “I was a teenager when I first met these men and they manipulated me and groomed me to do their bidding. “Because they were the most powerful men in the land, I was led to believe it was all OK. In truth they were abusers and once they had tired of me they simply discarded me. It is time this came to light before anyone else is abused. “They didn’t think they were doing anything wrong and it was the norm then. They felt untouchable.”

Questions over Better Together’s lies over registration for referendum role – As Sunday’s media attack Westminster


I ASK AGAIN. CAN WE TRUST THIS UNION AND WESTMINSTER?

http://shaunynews.com/2014/07/13/the-political-establishment-sexual-abuse-case-is-about-to-blow-up-as-i-said/

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/07/13/thatcher-covered-up-conservative-sex-scandal-wow-media-are-going-with-it/

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/scotland-we-are-not-voting-for-snp-or-any-politician-we-are-voting-for-freedom-and-to-stop-deaths/

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/a-letter-from-a-man-who-lived-through-two-2-westminster-lies-in-the-past-to-stop-scottish-referendum-or-freedom-scotland-you-must-know-our-history-and-westminster-lies/

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/austerity-nuclear-and-foreigners-of-scotland-why-vote-no-and-risk-being-thrown-out-and-making-scotland-poor/

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/07/07/theresa-may-launches-major-new-inquiry-into-uk-political-child-sex-abuse-allegations/

First this here >>>>>

Thatcher covered up Conservative Sex Scandal – WOW MEDIA ARE GOING WITH IT!

https://acenewsdesk.wordpress.com/2014/07/13/thatcher-covered-up-conservative-sex-scandal-wow-media-are-going-with-it/

Now this >>>>

BETTER Together’s place in the referendum campaign was last night thrown into confusion, after it emerged its official application to take part contained the wrong address.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/questions-over-better-togethers-registration-for-referendum-role.24741622

The pro-Union movement gave its Glasgow HQ as its address when it applied in April to become a “permitted participant” in the referendum. However, because it is a limited company, the law says Better Together should have used its registered office address in Edinburgh. Better Together said it had been acting on the Electoral Commission’s advice, and that the watchdog told it to use the Glasgow address because this was its day-to-day campaign base. The Commission initially told the Sunday Herald a wrong address would render an application “invalid”, and prompt a fresh application.

However, when the specifics of Better Together’s case were put to it, the Commission said there was “no problem” with the application after all. If the application was invalid, it would cast doubt on the No campaign’s legitimacy. The Commission admitted it had checked Better Together’s address and found the correct one was in Edinburgh, but rather than asking Better Together to amend it, the Commission had simply recorded the Edinburgh address on its own “internal approval record” and used it as the basis for processing the application.

The Commission last night updated its online register of campaigners to show Better Together’s Edinburgh address, and blamed an “administrative error” for not doing so sooner. Earlier this year, the Commission ruled the CBI’s application to be a campaigner was “void” because it was signed by the wrong person, a breach of the same law which says Better Together should have used its Edinburgh address. Despite the inaccuracy, the Commission insisted Better Together’s application was valid and consistent with its guidance and “the law”. However, the Commission was unable to say if the application complied with the relevant section of the Scottish Independence Referendum Act 2013, which is the critical law involved.

A Yes campaign source said: “This suggests real uncertainty and confusion about the exact status of the No campaign, and whether or not they have adhered to their legal obligations. It does indicate a lack of basic competence, which is embarrassing to say the least and could yet be a factor which influences the result.” There are almost 30 registered campaigners in the referendum, including individuals, unions and political parties, as well as Better Together and Yes Scotland. Under electoral law, companies “must” declare their full company name, their office registered with Companies House, and their company number when applying to be a permitted participant. Better Together, whose full legal name is Better Together 2012 Limited, should therefore have used its registered office address. Since its creation in June 2012, this has been 133 Fountainbridge, Edinburgh, the same office as its lawyers, Tods Murray LLP. Instead, it used 5 Blythswood Square, Glasgow.

After the Sunday Herald discovered the error, it asked the Commission in general terms about the consequences of an inaccurate address on a form to be a referendum permitted participant. In a statement on Thursday, the Commission said: “If an organisation or individual provided inaccurate information on their form and notified the Electoral Commission of that, their application would be invalid and we would work with them to make sure they supply an application with the correct information.” However, when we raised Better Together’s address on Friday, the Commission said: “It doesn’t impact on Better Together’s registration at all and there was no problem with the information they provided us.”

In statement yesterday, the Commission said: “The approval of an application by Better Together to register as a permitted participant was consistent with our guidance and the law. Their registration … is valid. “Following Better Together’s application … we verified their details, including checking their details on Companies House. This is a straightforward and standard practice that we carry out with all applications. It would not have required any correspondence with Better Together. Better Together’s address with Companies House was in Edinburgh. “This address should have been recorded on our list of permitted participants rather than the Glasgow address. This was an administrative error on our part and has been amended accordingly on our website.” A Better Together spokesman said: “We followed the guidance and advice given to us by the Electoral Commission. They have made clear to us that there was an administrative error on their part and has been rectified.”